BBO Discussion Forums: Look for (which) sac? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Look for (which) sac?

Poll: Look for (which) sac? (21 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. X (16 votes [76.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.19%

  2. Pass (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2014-August-31, 14:07



Your call? Do you then plan to pass NF bids throughout?

(eta) to clarify the second question, I mean whatever your call here, do you intend to pass any non-forcing bids your partner makes, or might you for eg pull if you land in 4Sx?
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0

#2 User is offline   gordontd 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,485
  • Joined: 2009-July-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

Posted 2014-August-31, 14:39

I pass and I'm not sure what the second question means.
Gordon Rainsford
London UK
0

#3 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2014-August-31, 15:15

4♥ is what?
0

#4 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2014-August-31, 20:29

Easy dbl for me
If pd sits I have nothing to feel guilty with 2 bullets, if he bids I am happy.

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-August-31, 15:15, said:

4♥ is what?

I think this is irrelevant. If it's strong and not necessarily long trumps pd will have a stack. If it's long trumps, which is likely then passing 4h at these colors can hardly be a winner in long run IMHO.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
0

#5 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2014-August-31, 21:57

I certainly pass this. I also do not understand the second question.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#6 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2014-August-31, 22:51

Seriously, Jinsky, what's the 2nd question ?
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
0

#7 User is offline   mr1303 

  • Admirer of Walter the Walrus
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,563
  • Joined: 2003-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
  • Interests:Bridge, surfing, water skiing, cricket, golf. Generally being outside really.

Posted 2014-September-01, 09:07

To my unqualified eye, the second question means that if either a) opps bid 5H directly or b) partner bids something (4S, 5 of a minor) and opps compete to 5H, or c) partner bids anything other than 5H, do you intend to pass?

The answer is yes. I'm much happier about defending 5H than 4H.
0

#8 User is offline   BillPatch 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 457
  • Joined: 2009-August-31
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hilliard, Ohio
  • Interests:income taxes, american history, energy

Posted 2014-September-01, 12:32

To mr1303 if partner advances 4NT, my understanding is that he has made a forcing bid, asking my choice of minors.
0

#9 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2014-September-01, 14:19

View Postgordontd, on 2014-August-31, 14:39, said:

I pass and I'm not sure what the second question means.


Hopefully clarified now in OP.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0

#10 User is offline   gordontd 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,485
  • Joined: 2009-July-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

Posted 2014-September-01, 15:59

View PostJinksy, on 2014-September-01, 14:19, said:

Hopefully clarified now in OP.

Not really. Are you wondering if I would pull 4S if my partner bid it and it was doubled?!!
Gordon Rainsford
London UK
0

#11 User is offline   RMB1 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,841
  • Joined: 2007-January-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Exeter, UK
  • Interests:EBU/EBL TD
    Bridge, Cinema, Theatre, Food,
    [Walking - not so much]

Posted 2014-September-01, 16:54

View Postgordontd, on 2014-September-01, 15:59, said:

Not really. Are you wondering if I would pull 4S if my partner bid it and it was doubled?!!


I think the OP was wondering that if you acted (X, 4NT, 5♦) now and partner bids (4♠, 5♣) do you pass (and do you Pass if opponents double).
Robin

"Robin Barker is a mathematician. ... All highly skilled in their respective fields and clearly accomplished bridge players."
0

#12 User is offline   PhilKing 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,240
  • Joined: 2012-June-25

Posted 2014-September-01, 17:15

View PostRMB1, on 2014-September-01, 16:54, said:

I think the OP was wondering that if you acted (X, 4NT, 5♦) now and partner bids (4♠, 5♣) do you pass (and do you Pass if opponents double).


I'd pull if pard bid 4♠ slowly. B-)
0

#13 User is offline   cherdano 

  • 5555
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,519
  • Joined: 2003-September-04
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2014-September-01, 17:24

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-September-01, 17:15, said:

I'd pull if pard bid 4♠ slowly. B-)

Best to pull slowly to 4NT.
The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke
0

#14 User is offline   gszes 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,660
  • Joined: 2011-February-12

Posted 2014-September-01, 18:36

x and yes I would leave 4sx in
0

#15 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2014-September-02, 07:33

View Postgordontd, on 2014-September-01, 15:59, said:

Not really. Are you wondering if I would pull 4S if my partner bid it and it was doubled?!!


Yes, for eg.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0

#16 User is offline   gordontd 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,485
  • Joined: 2009-July-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

Posted 2014-September-02, 07:48

View PostJinksy, on 2014-September-02, 07:33, said:

Yes, for eg.

Well I'd have four-card support for partner and three first-round controls! I certainly wouldn't pull it.
Gordon Rainsford
London UK
0

#17 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2014-September-02, 18:23

View PostJinksy, on 2014-September-02, 07:33, said:

Yes, for eg.


The question is totally illogical. Presumably you doubled to find a fit with your partner. Now that he has shown you a fit you are asking whether we would pull it to another suit where maybe no fit exists? Really? :blink:
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#18 User is offline   neilkaz 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,568
  • Joined: 2006-June-28
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Barrington IL USA
  • Interests:Backgammon, Bridge, Hockey

Posted 2014-September-02, 19:28

View Postthe hog, on 2014-September-02, 18:23, said:

The question is totally illogical. Presumably you doubled to find a fit with your partner. Now that he has shown you a fit you are asking whether we would pull it to another suit where maybe no fit exists? Really? :blink:

Agreed completely and note also that you'd be pulling a 10 trick contract to an 11 trick contract.

Pulling 4♠X after doubling here would threaten partnership stability for me.

You make your bed when you X here and now you have to lie in it.
0

#19 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2014-September-03, 00:32

View Postthe hog, on 2014-September-02, 18:23, said:

The question is totally illogical.


The question is just a question.
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users