BBO Discussion Forums: High-level Decision - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

High-level Decision

#1 User is offline   lamford 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,444
  • Joined: 2007-October-15

Posted 2016-November-02, 16:58


IMPs. Your turn
I prefer to give the lawmakers credit for stating things for a reason - barmar
0

#2 User is offline   kuhchung 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 729
  • Joined: 2010-August-03

Posted 2016-November-02, 17:09

p
Videos of the worst bridge player ever playing bridge:
https://www.youtube....hungPlaysBridge
2

#3 User is offline   Kaitlyn S 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,092
  • Joined: 2016-July-31
  • Gender:Female

Posted 2016-November-02, 17:37

View Postkuhchung, on 2016-November-02, 17:09, said:

p
+1
0

#4 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2016-November-02, 18:24

I'd Pass.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





0

#5 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2016-November-02, 19:39

I'd bid, though I'm not sure what. I'd hope P would take 6 as a cue, in which case I'm bidding that in case he has the two black aces, but at the table I'd probably be too wary and just raise to 6.

Phil King has argued based on his database that pulling 4M doubled to the five level should be a strong action - a hand that intends to make opposite a good strong NT. I don't see any reason why the same shouldn't apply (presumably even more so) when pulling 5m, so on that theory I expect P to have at least 6 hearts, probably 7, and some outside values to make up for the crappiness of his suit.
The "4 is a transfer to 4" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0

#6 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2016-November-02, 19:49

Lamford writes "IMPs. Your turn"

A close decision but I rank
1. 6. NAT. What is partner likely to have for his 5 bid? Your double covers a wide variety of hands. Hence, with most weak hands, he would pass 5X. His are headed by the ten at most, so he is likely to hold 6+ and outside values.
2. Pass. NAT. John Matheson admonishes "Don't punish partner for enterprise". Partner is already playing you for a suitable good hand.

You should agree about what other continuations mean (especially 5N and 6).

0

#7 User is offline   rmnka447 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,366
  • Joined: 2012-March-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Illinois
  • Interests:Bridge, Golf, Soccer

Posted 2016-November-03, 00:02

Pass. There's just no way to know what's in partner's hand and no way to find out. All you know is that partner didn't sit for 5 x. For 6 to make partner has to cover 3 of the 4 losers in you hand. Bidding on and expecting to find that is a pretty tall order.
3

#8 User is offline   alok c 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 283
  • Joined: 2015-February-25

Posted 2016-November-03, 00:17

6
0

#9 User is offline   alok c 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 283
  • Joined: 2015-February-25

Posted 2016-November-03, 00:18

deleted-double post.
0

#10 User is offline   eagles123 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,831
  • Joined: 2011-June-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK Near London
  • Interests:Crystal Palace

Posted 2016-November-03, 02:54

I think it's pretty close but one things for sure, if there was a BIT before the 5H bid and this hand raised then i would roll it back.
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
0

#11 User is offline   broze 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,006
  • Joined: 2011-March-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK

Posted 2016-November-03, 03:16

This is all about your style of doubling and passing here. For me 5 would show a "constructive" hand so I raise.
'In an infinite universe, the one thing sentient life cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion.' - Douglas Adams
0

#12 User is offline   lamford 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,444
  • Joined: 2007-October-15

Posted 2016-November-03, 03:16

View Posteagles123, on 2016-November-03, 02:54, said:

I think it's pretty close but one things for sure, if there was a BIT before the 5H bid and this hand raised then i would roll it back.

There was no BIT, and it would not tell you anything if there was, as partner could be thinking of passing 5Cx. 6H makes in theory, but partner did not have 20-20 vision and did not drop the stiff KD offside.
I prefer to give the lawmakers credit for stating things for a reason - barmar
0

#13 User is offline   nekthen 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 534
  • Joined: 2008-September-21

Posted 2016-November-03, 04:13

I think south expects to be -2, based on a 9 or 10 card club suit missing the K. I think partner bids, because he thinks 6 is a possibility and he is confident 5 will make. He could have bid 5N (pick a slam) or 6C (with a void). So on balance I will pass. If I had no club loser I would bid 6.
0

#14 User is offline   Jinksy 

  • Experimental biddicist
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,909
  • Joined: 2010-January-02
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2016-November-03, 06:50

View Postlamford, on 2016-November-03, 03:16, said:

There was no BIT, and it would not tell you anything if there was, as partner could be thinking of passing 5Cx. 6H makes in theory, but partner did not have 20-20 vision and did not drop the stiff KD offside.


What was P's hand? It sounds like (s)he possibly should have passed on PK's theory (unless there's some reason I've missed why it would be different for 5/5) - but still 6 seems like a good slam if it relies only on a finesse into S's hand.
The "4 is a transfer to 4" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
0

#15 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2016-November-03, 10:28

partner bid an empty heart suit?, something is not right, and I would need to know my partner to know what is he thinking about. My first instinct is to bid 7, or at least try it.
0

#16 User is offline   miamijd 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 737
  • Joined: 2015-November-14

Posted 2016-November-03, 11:41

The stiff Kc is a very bad holding for slam. Not only is the King worthless, but this is three fewer points your side doesn't have. In addition, you can't be sure partner has to As, either. He could have something like:


Qxxx xxxxxx Kx x

Wouldn't you bid 5H on that? I certainly would.


Cheers,
Mike
0

#17 User is offline   jogs 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,316
  • Joined: 2011-March-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:student of the game

Posted 2016-November-03, 12:57

View Postmiamijd, on 2016-November-03, 11:41, said:

The stiff Kc is a very bad holding for slam. Not only is the King worthless, but this is three fewer points your side doesn't have. In addition, you can't be sure partner has to As, either. He could have something like:


Qxxx xxxxxx Kx x

Wouldn't you bid 5H on that? I certainly would.


Cheers,
Mike


Qxxx xxxx Kxx xx

I think this is a 5 call.
0

#18 User is offline   Kaitlyn S 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,092
  • Joined: 2016-July-31
  • Gender:Female

Posted 2016-November-03, 14:48

View Postjogs, on 2016-November-03, 12:57, said:

Qxxx xxxx Kxx xx

I think this is a 5 call.
I'd be surprised if most players didn't take a chance defending 5C with this hand.
2

#19 User is offline   rmnka447 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,366
  • Joined: 2012-March-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Illinois
  • Interests:Bridge, Golf, Soccer

Posted 2016-November-03, 17:35

I suspect, that with something like xxx xxxxxx xxx x, I'd find a 5 call. Are those that are suggesting that 5 shows values mean they would insist on sitting for 5 X with this hand or ones similar to it?
1

#20 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2016-November-03, 17:49

This thread has lost its collective mind.

5H shows a really good hand! JDonn's rule for pulling a double at the five level is a "good weak 2 (or better").

If partner opened a weak 2h would you really be parking this in game?
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
2

  • 3 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users