[cnszsun]

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You opened 1♣, partner responded 1♠, What do you bid now?

[P_Marlowe]

2C, showing were I live,
planning to raise spade
in the next round.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[1eyedjack]

2C

With one fewer Club and a singleton D I would raise 1S to 2S. As it is, there are hands were raising S would work better. I can think of hands where we are making 4S but partner would pass 2C. Even so, with the 6th Club I think 2C is less of a distortion than 2S, and hope to survive another round.

[HeartA]

2C

[adhoc3]

With 1 more big in spade, I'll 2S

[Free]

2♠, what's the problem? Partner should know this can be a 3 card...

[EricK]

For a 12 point hand, this is immensely strong. It looks to me to be the equivalent in playing strength of a 16 or 17 point hand. There are a lot of minimum hands for partner where game is a laydown.

I know it is the modern American way to play reverses as very strong (almost GF, in fact), I prefer to play them a little weaker than that, so playing with an understanding partner I will try 2♥.

[temp3600]

2S. Nice but minimum hand, with only 3-card support.

[zasanya]

3 different rebids .More may follow.Makes me often wonder whether people really play the same system?
I bid 2 ♣.shows 5+ ♣ 12 -14 points unbalanced hand may have 4 card♥
and / or 3 card ♠.Isnt that my hand?

[FrancesHinden]

zasanya, on Jul 24 2006, 08:24 AM, said:

3 different rebids .More may follow.Makes me often wonder whether people really play the same system?
I bid 2 ♣.shows 5+ ♣ 12 -14 points unbalanced hand may have 4 card♥
and / or 3 card ♠.Isnt that my hand?

Whenever you play a system that allows some judgement (rather than a strict relay-based question/answer system) there will always be hands that are right on the edge of two possible bids.

I predict you would get a unanimous vote for 2C with

Qx
AJxx
x
KQ109xx

and a virtually unanimous vote for 2S with

Qxx
AJxx
x
KQ109x

the question hand is a cross between the two of these...

[mr1303]

My hand has greatly increased in value with the 1♠ response. In my opinion it now has too much for a 2♣ bid or a 2♠ bid.

If I played some sort of gadget such as 2NT rebid that shows a 3♣ rebid plus 3 card spade support I'd try that. Failing that, I'll try 3♣, but I'd have support for a 2♥ rebid

[1eyedjack]

I would say that my hand "greatly improves" if and only if responder has a 5th Spade. It is true that he may pass 2C with such a hand. But it is equally true that he may not have a 5th Spade.

Without a doubt the hand has improved even if responder has only 4 Spades. But the effect of a 5th Spade would I think be what makes the hand disproportionately worth more than a simple 2C bid.

[the hog]

2C followed by a jump in S if partner bids again. Really sympathise with 2S and might bid that at the table with regular pds

[Walddk]

Borderline hand. When you have the choice between rebidding your minor and supporting partner's major, I suggest the latter. 2♠ will always sound more encouraging than 2♣.

Again, I would like to recommend Garozzo's 2NT relay after the raise to 2♠ (if responder is strong enough). That will disclose the 3-card support, and a maximum - and shortage in one of the unbid suits.

Roland

[jdeegan]

I dunno what is best. 2♣ feels right, but what about when partner holds a fairish 5-2-4-2 or 5-1-4-3 hand with pretty good spades like:

AJ942
102
A987
J3

Partner will likely pass 2♣, but over 2♠ will bid again, and we will reach a good game contract.

Also, in a MP pairs game, playing the hand in spades figures to score better than in clubs more often than not. Even on the 4-3 fit, we might scramble home for +140 in spades when only +130 was available in clubs.

[whereagles]

The_Hog, on Jul 25 2006, 08:06 AM, said:

2C followed by a jump in S if partner bids again. Really sympathise with 2S and might bid that at the table with regular pds

x2

[Winstonm]

The South hand is not so greatly improved by the spade bid unless partner can move again. The void is not such a strong holding with Qxx as it would be if partner had bid hearts or if we play in clubs. Although it feels an underbid, IMO 2C is best - unless partner can bid again little is lost.

When I raise to 2S on these types hands, I get this:

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Contract 2S North. Low spade lead.

[FrancesHinden]

what's the problem with 2S on a low spade lead on this layout?
I'd be very happy to play there at matchpoints.

A diamond lead is not what I want.

[Winstonm]

FrancesHinden, on Jul 25 2006, 07:49 AM, said:

what's the problem with 2S on a low spade lead on this layout?
I'd be very happy to play there at matchpoints.

A diamond lead is not what I want.

Diamond led:

Ruff. Low club Ace. Low heart to Jack. K of clubs. Heart to king. Diamond ruff.
Ace of hearts. 7 tricks in the bag now. Lead master heart, pitching last diamond.
North cannot be prevented from scoring the 10 or 9 of spades. Making 2.

Spade led:

Three round of spades, three rounds of diamonds. Down 1.

[kenrexford]

Some friends of mine, who routinely score in the top five in NABC events (unlike me), play that a jump reverse show a 6-3 hand with support and playing strength. When two jump reverses are available, the choice of J.R. shows values in the suit bid and implies shortness in the other suit. Thus, 3H here would show this hand. I have not thought through the merits of it, but on this hand their convention meets the problem, if 3H+ is not too high.