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As we all know, the automatically saved vugraph archives include commentary that rarely, if ever, coincides with the actual play when more than one table is broadcast simultaneously. If you can't catch a vugraph match live, it makes it quite painful to watch it later with commentary that doesn't relate to what you are watching.
It would be much better if the vugraph archives simply recorded the actual bridge.
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#1
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Posted 2007-February-23, 06:25
Disclaimer: The above post may be a half-baked sarcastic rant intended to stimulate discussion and it does not necessarily coincide with my own views on this topic.
I ♦ bidding the suit below the suit I'm actually showing not to be described as a "transfer" for the benefit of people unfamiliar with the concept of a transfer
I ♦ bidding the suit below the suit I'm actually showing not to be described as a "transfer" for the benefit of people unfamiliar with the concept of a transfer
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Posted 2007-February-23, 17:51
Nearly all the Vugraphs, without commentary, are available on Nikos Sarantakos's site at:
http://www.sarantako...ge/vugraph.html.
They usually take a few days to process but Nikos does a superb job.
Hopefully someday soon Fred will get round to sorting the commentary problems
Denis
http://www.sarantako...ge/vugraph.html.
They usually take a few days to process but Nikos does a superb job.
Hopefully someday soon Fred will get round to sorting the commentary problems
Denis
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Posted 2007-February-25, 22:40
Ａ ｙｅａｒ ｏｒ ｔｗｏ ago I looked at some of the garbage commentary. It turned out that it came from boards with the same number (#13 or whatever) in other matches. Hopefully this will be a clue to debugging the problem when Fred and his colleagues have a chance to look into this. It's certainly not a high priority issue but it would be nice if it were fixed some day....
-Bob
-Bob
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Posted 2007-February-25, 22:42
The first four words of my post were typed in a Japanese font. In case it doesn't display proerly, here's my post again. Sorry about that.
A year or two ago I looked at some of the garbage commentary. It turned out that it came from boards with the same number (#13 or whatever) in other matches. Hopefully this will be a clue to debugging the problem when Fred and his colleagues have a chance to look into this. It's certainly not a high priority issue but it would be nice if it were fixed some day....
-Bob
A year or two ago I looked at some of the garbage commentary. It turned out that it came from boards with the same number (#13 or whatever) in other matches. Hopefully this will be a clue to debugging the problem when Fred and his colleagues have a chance to look into this. It's certainly not a high priority issue but it would be nice if it were fixed some day....
-Bob
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Posted 2007-February-26, 05:03
My point is who needs the archived commentary anyway? It doesn't work and even if it did work it makes it much harder to review a lin file as you need to click through each line of commentary. Surely, auto-archiving vugraph in the same way it auto-saves to your 'hands' directory is achievable given that the fuctionality already exists. For those who do want to wade through saved commentary, I guess BBO could do both.
Disclaimer: The above post may be a half-baked sarcastic rant intended to stimulate discussion and it does not necessarily coincide with my own views on this topic.
I ♦ bidding the suit below the suit I'm actually showing not to be described as a "transfer" for the benefit of people unfamiliar with the concept of a transfer
I ♦ bidding the suit below the suit I'm actually showing not to be described as a "transfer" for the benefit of people unfamiliar with the concept of a transfer
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Posted 2007-February-26, 05:16
The usual reason I would look through the archives is when I played in or watched the event "live", and want to see what the commentators had to say about it. When the commentary is recorded properly, it's great.
I do agree that when it gets messed up, it's worse than useless.
I do agree that when it gets messed up, it's worse than useless.
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