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Swammerdam, on 2025-October-10, 02:25, said:
THREE level. In the example, the game-forcing bid was THREE ♥. There is an excellent chance opener has at least three spades. If Responder has a lousy hand with Clubs, he can bid 3NT. The proper denomination will probably become apparent very quickly. Contrast this with 2♣ Pass 2♦ Pass 3♦ where you're almost as high as 3♥ and very little distributional information has been exchanged.
I didn't say the game forcing bid was at the 4 level. I said you will be at the 4 level still without knowing what the best fit is, or the combined strength. Suppose responder isn't weak with clubs. Does 4♦ show a fit or is that a preference because they have nothing else to bid? Strong or weak? Is 4♥ suggesting playing in a 7 card fit? Strong or weak? Ìf 3nt is weak with clubs, what do you do with some values and clubs?
I don't know why you'd think there's an excellent chance opener has at least three spades, given they've denied 4 by not raising, and have shown lots of red cards..
Swammerdam, on 2025-October-10, 02:25, said:
Meanwhile, I still welcome answers to my actual questions, based on the actual hands presented in my preceding post:
I didn't see a question. Are you asking what i would bid as responder after the reverse? 2♠ in both cases, F1.