D(r)aft alert rules

#21 helene_t

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Posted 2007-May-10, 08:41

mgoetze, on May 10 2007, 12:27 PM, said:

"1NT" - "Pass" - "2 Diamonds" - "Alert" - "What's it mean?" - "Transfer to Hearts"

guess what happens? That's right, people stop asking...

That's why certain popular conventions are not alertable in some IRL jurisdictions.

Online, you explain spontaneously. Opps don have to ask. Therefore, transfers (and Stayman) should be alerted online.

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Posted 2007-May-10, 09:06

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"1NT" - "Pass" - "2 Diamonds" - "Alert" - "What's it mean?" - "Transfer to Hearts

I've had a lot of auctions like:

1NT (weak) - 2♦ (alerted)
2NT (alerted) - 4♠
Pass

Opps didn't ask and instead assumed we had a misunderstanding. Why? Because they assumed we were playing transfers.

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Posted 2007-May-10, 11:41

mgoetze, on May 9 2007, 03:28 AM, said:

mycroft, on May 7 2007, 04:58 PM, said:

Ghestem 3C is frequently not Alertable (but sometimes it is).

Uuuuhm... why wouldn't it be alertable?

(Standard Ghestem 3♣ never shows Clubs. Some people play a sort of "reverse Ghestem", which, however, is stupid.)

Exactly. And, unfortunately, sometimes the 3C bidder is showing diamonds and spades, but actually has clubs (Ghestem problem 1).

Ghestem problem 2 is that everyone remembers what 1x-2NT is, but they don't remember which of the two is 1x-2x and which is 1x-3C. This includes some very famous players, including a well known Frenchman whose last name starts with...well, why give the show away?

And if you play it the reverse way (and the link explains one of the reasons why you would), then 3C shows clubs sometimes and not other times. Well, except when it fails to show a second suit - see Ghestem problem 1).

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Posted 2007-May-11, 20:10

Gerben42, on May 10 2007, 10:06 AM, said:

Why are they assuming anything? Can't they read the little pop-ups that contain your explanations? You are filling in the explanation field when you make your alertable bids, aren't you? Or are you unnecessarily forcing the opponents to ask?

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Posted 2007-May-12, 03:04

Somehow the FD popups don't work at my local club. But even with the alert AND the Full Disclosure card in play people sometimes don't get it since it is unexpected.

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