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system exceptions pass after stayman, need alert/explain?

#41 User is offline   hrothgar 

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Posted 2007-November-09, 18:01

bid_em_up, on Nov 10 2007, 02:57 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Nov 9 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

I've looked them up and it can't be inferred. The only one jerking himself around here is B_E_U.

How about posting an ID that you actually play on? The one you use here has never had any played hands listed (that I have seen). I'm sure you have nothing to hide if you are as good as you seem to think you are.

Otherwise, stfu.

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Posted 2007-November-09, 18:57

bid_em_up, on Nov 8 2007, 07:03 AM, said:

Wow.

So are there people in Australia that actually play 1N 2C as natural?

Wow.

(And since this is posted in the BBO Tournament forum, I will assume this question concerned a BBO tournament. To the best of my knowledge, australian alerting rules do not apply in them.) :P

The only thing about this line of argument is that it is looking at alerting rules in a vacuum. If we only cared about this one very sequence 1NT - Pass - 2, then alerting rules would be quite simple to handle! But the powers that be try to find alerting rules that meet certain criteria. One of those criteria is that they are easy to understand. So if it is easier to understand that a natural bid is unalerted and an artificial bid is alerted, then wtp? You are just trading off having to alert a bid more often than you like for making your alerting rules overall easier to explain and understand. It was the case in England that stayman was alerted, until the recent change came out where it is now announced.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 20:16

hrothgar, on Nov 10 2007, 07:01 AM, said:

bid_em_up, on Nov 10 2007, 02:57 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Nov 9 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

I've looked them up and it can't be inferred. The only one jerking himself around here is B_E_U.

How about posting an ID that you actually play on? The one you use here has never had any played hands listed (that I have seen). I'm sure you have nothing to hide if you are as good as you seem to think you are.

Otherwise, stfu.

this is gonna be amusing...

Nah not really Richard; its too easy and not enough of a challenge.

Firstly B_E_U you need to look at hands 2+ yrs ago as I haven't played on BBO, or ftf for that matter, for that time as I have been and still currently live os. The IT infrastructure in my current country is such that I have only recently had an internet connection and that happens to be a dial-up one, plus I work 3 weeks on site and 3 weeks off.
Before that time I regularly played with Richard, Caren, and occasionally with Rado and Misho as well as my Oz pd.

Secondly since when does pointing out the inanities of a belligerent and obtuse poster lead to a conclusion about one's own abilities. I must admit that I don't suffer fools gladly.
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Posted 2007-November-09, 21:26

The_Hog, on Nov 9 2007, 09:16 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Nov 10 2007, 07:01 AM, said:

bid_em_up, on Nov 10 2007, 02:57 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Nov 9 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

I've looked them up and it can't be inferred. The only one jerking himself around here is B_E_U.

How about posting an ID that you actually play on? The one you use here has never had any played hands listed (that I have seen). I'm sure you have nothing to hide if you are as good as you seem to think you are.

Otherwise, stfu.

this is gonna be amusing...

Nah not really Richard; its too easy and not enough of a challenge.

Firstly B_E_U you need to look at hands 2+ yrs ago as I haven't played on BBO, or ftf for that matter, for that time as I have been and still currently live os. The IT infrastructure in my current country is such that I have only recently had an internet connection and that happens to be a dial-up one, plus I work 3 weeks on site and 3 weeks off.
Before that time I regularly played with Richard, Caren, and occasionally with Rado and Misho as well as my Oz pd.

Secondly since when does pointing out the inanities of a belligerent and obtuse poster lead to a conclusion about one's own abilities. I must admit that I don't suffer fools gladly.

Hand records for BBO do not go back that far, unless you have access to something like BridgeBrowser, obviously one as brilliant as yourself should know this already. Since I do not have BrBr, trying to look more than two years ago is pointless.

I'm just wondering, if you dont suffer fools gladly, how can you stand getting out of bed every day and looking in the mirror?
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2007-November-09, 23:07

A devastating comeback from someone whose penultimate riposte was "S t f u." I can't cope with such intelligence or eloquence.
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