[ArcLight]

Pick up, IMPS, red/white

P - P - ?
♠ x
♥ K T x x x
♦ Q x
♣ A Q x x x

1. What do you open?


2. how would you rate a bid of 4♥


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Is this worth a 2♥ overcall (all red, IMPS)
P 1S -?

♠ Q x
♥ A K x x x
♦ K x x x
♣ x x

[Gerben42]

1. 1♥
...2♥ with my regular pd (intermediate)

2. Suicidal unless you can trust opponents to accept the transfer.

3. No overcall for me, sorry

[whereagles]

1a. Seems like a "1♥ wtp?"
1b. 4♥ is an unwarranted flight of fancy

2. I would overcall 2♥, yes.

[TylerE]

Pick up, IMPS, red/white

1. What do you open?

1♥

2. how would you rate a bid of 4♥

0/10000000000000...asking to go for 800 against a partscore. Too much defense to be worth a psyche. Might push the opps into a 22pt 4♠ contract that is otherwise unbiddable. Chances of making 4♥ are basically zero.

Is this worth a 2♥ overcall (all red, IMPS)
P 1S -?

Sure.

[Codo]

1. 1 Heart or 2 Heart ( Hearts+ other?) deopending on vul and opps.
2. sick and ridicolous
3. yes, but this is the weakest possible hand.

[gwnn]

whereagles, on Jan 16 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

1a. Seems like a "1♥ wtp?"
1b. 4♥ is an unwarranted flight of fancy

2. I would overcall 2♥, yes.

agree. well, you got the numbers wrong, but I agree with the bridge part.

[joker_gib]

1. 1♥
2. Sorry, I don't find a word for this..
3. Yes but close

[FrancesHinden]

1. 1♥, or 2♥ if it shows a 2-suiter
2. Risking a penalty from the TD for frivolous psyching/deliberate dumping
3. Marginal. I probably wouldn't, but I don't mind if partner does.

[inquiry]

1. 1♥
2. insane to open 4♥
3. I would pass, but it is not quite such a bad 2♥ overcall that I would be mad at partner if he bid it... just a little disappointed if he did and it turned out bad for us.

[Walddk]

1. Normal 1♥.
2. Sick.
3. No, but I know many would. I like better cards vulnerable, facing a passed partner.

Roland

[pclayton]

1. 1♥. My old partner would open hands like this at red/red 3♥, but I've never seen something like 4. Therefore, weird bids like 3♥ actually occur to me, but I never make them myself.

2. I generally don't overcall on hands like this, but it's not horrible either.

[ArcLight]

The pick up "expert" opponent opened 4♥.
I was shocked.
Even worse 4♥ was making because his passed pard had the AJxx in trumps, and a good 5 card club suit taht fit his.
They went down because responder thought his cand good enough to make a slam try, and he made a slightly inferior play (finesse rather than teh drop missing 4 trumps while holding the AKJ).
We set them 1 trick, when 4♠ was making our way.
He was so pleased with himself for taking away our spade game.
I was thinking that for each game we lose we would gain many more points in penalties over the long run.

I frequently get "stolen from" by these "experts" and "advanced" players who make bids like this because I expect them to have more. They balance with 5332 hands at the 3 level and a so-so 5 card suit, with wasted cards (Qx) in the opponents bid and supported suits).

[TylerE]

What was the full layout?

[han]

1. 1H

2. It takes a sick mind to ask a question like this. No offense of course .

3. I would pass.

[ArcLight]

Hannie, on Jan 16 2008, 01:12 PM, said:

2. It takes a sick mind to ask a question like this. No offense of course  .

I realize that! I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misundestanding something


p p 4H p 5H (down 1)

The 4H bidder ripped into the 5H bidder afterwards. I thought he was a real class act myself

(4H)
S x
H KTxxx
D Qx
C AQxxx

(5H)
S x x x
H A J x x
D x
C K J x x x


5♥ was meant as a slam try. Perhaps 5♥ was over enthusiastic, as he would ned his pard to hold a heart honor as well as Club fillers and a spade honor.


5H should make on a club lead, but "expert" declarer took a second round heart finesse that lost and we cashed two spades for down 1

Most played in 4♥ (making 5). A couple in 4♠ making

[655321]

(1) 1♥
(2) I'm sorry, my screen seems to show a 1525 hand, and the question "how would you rate a bid of 4♥?".
(3) Probably not. It is marginal, partner is a passed hand which probably gets me to pass.

[Cascade]

inquiry, on Jan 17 2008, 05:59 AM, said:

2. insane to open 4♥

Ben you insult the insane.

[skjaeran]

1. 1♥ - wtp?
2. 4♥? Never ever.
3. Most probably pass vs passed partner with this hand, else overcall.

[mike777]

hmm some reason you guys could not bid spades or something at some point?