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Does this exist?
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Posted 2008-February-06, 01:39
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Posted 2008-February-06, 01:43
yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand 
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Posted 2008-February-06, 02:22
No, I don't think so.
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Posted 2008-February-06, 02:28
Gerben42, on Feb 6 2008, 02:43 AM, said:
yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand
Bingo.
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Posted 2008-February-06, 03:25
Gerben42, on Feb 6 2008, 08:43 PM, said:
yes because 3♥ directly would be constructive, this is a destructive hand that was short of bidding 3/4♥ before. See the recent appeal hand
Exactly.
Both 3♥ and 4♥ are constructive on the previous round so this is a weak distributional hand.
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Posted 2008-February-06, 03:48
No, this auction does not exists.
And there is at least one big difference to the apeals
hand.
One may or may not pass over a 3H bid with
a weak responding hand with spade support
for opener with the intention to bid 4S over 4H.
Because for what ever reasons, one does not
want to defend against a partial, but one is
prepared to defend against an enemy game.
Going slow will tell you, if they bid game with
the intention to make.
In the current auction, the opponents wanted
to play 3C nothing more.
The only sense I can make of 4H is, that the guy
wants to get douled, because he is sure he can
make 4H, ... it is a pity that opener reopened.
With kind regards
Marlowe
And there is at least one big difference to the apeals
hand.
One may or may not pass over a 3H bid with
a weak responding hand with spade support
for opener with the intention to bid 4S over 4H.
Because for what ever reasons, one does not
want to defend against a partial, but one is
prepared to defend against an enemy game.
Going slow will tell you, if they bid game with
the intention to make.
In the current auction, the opponents wanted
to play 3C nothing more.
The only sense I can make of 4H is, that the guy
wants to get douled, because he is sure he can
make 4H, ... it is a pity that opener reopened.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-February-06, 04:47
definitely exists, for Gerben's reasons. That said, many people overuse it methinks.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-February-06, 12:13
Yes, I don't think you're forced to compete to 3h with a mediocre hand with ♥Hxx and ♦xxx or something, but once partner shows short diamonds, you may well upgrade it. I suppose you can even have 4 hearts, like others have said.
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Posted 2008-February-06, 12:43
Sure this exist. For reasons mentione by other posters above.
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2008-February-06, 14:31
Not for me. Ill bid 3H almost everytime i would have raise 1H to 2H if RHO would have passed. 5 trumps & a stiff is enough to make a move even without hcp. This doesnt set any forcing pass so if partner X 4C he is on his own. If they bid 5C and partner X and they make it ill apologize.
PS with 5 trumps and 5332 shape ill pass and bid 3H after the X. So the 4H bid in the auction show 5 trumps and a stiff wich is a hand i would clearly bid 3H before the X
PS with 5 trumps and 5332 shape ill pass and bid 3H after the X. So the 4H bid in the auction show 5 trumps and a stiff wich is a hand i would clearly bid 3H before the X
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Posted 2008-February-07, 00:20
If it happened, then the auction exists. Whether it should exist is a question for you, your partner, and 10-12 people who troll bridge forums, I guess.
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Posted 2008-February-07, 01:12
I've had the auction
1♥-3♣-2♣-2♦*
*a partner with a diamond suit who has faith in pd's jump overcall more than RHO's bid.
so there exist all kinds of sequences
1♥-3♣-2♣-2♦*
*a partner with a diamond suit who has faith in pd's jump overcall more than RHO's bid.
so there exist all kinds of sequences
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
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