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1, would you open this one, (i would if ♣ and ♠ are switched)
2, if you pass at first round, would you bid after rho's 4♥?
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Posted 2008-February-18, 06:42
1, would you open this one, (i would if ♣ and ♠ are switched)
2, if you pass at first round, would you bid after rho's 4♥?
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Posted 2008-February-18, 06:47
#1 No, but if I would open, if the black suits are switched,
I would open this one as well
#2 No, and if I believe that the suit was to weak to open at
the 1 level, why should I now introduce the suit at the 4
level?
With kind regards
Marlowe
I would open this one as well
#2 No, and if I believe that the suit was to weak to open at
the 1 level, why should I now introduce the suit at the 4
level?
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-February-18, 06:47
1) I would open. I have no problem with opening this either 1♠ or 1♣, but I'd open 1♠. I want to get the suit in that I think we're most likely to be able to compete with. That said, I am very worried about getting tapped on this hand.
2) Passsssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Even favorable, bidding is crazy.
2) Passsssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Even favorable, bidding is crazy.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 07:01
(1) Yes, I would open. If the ♥A was somewhere else, opening would be clear. Even so, I prefer to open (1♠).
(2) Yes, I bid. Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible, otherwise I bid 4♠, and if doubled I may decide to run to 5♣.
(2) Yes, I bid. Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible, otherwise I bid 4♠, and if doubled I may decide to run to 5♣.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 07:05
655321, on Feb 18 2008, 06:01 AM, said:
(2) Yes, I bid. Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible
What? You want partner to bid 5♦?
655321, on Feb 18 2008, 06:01 AM, said:
otherwise I bid 4♠, and if doubled I may decide to run
WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?
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Posted 2008-February-18, 07:12
I open.
Having Caspar Milquetoasted, I certainly bid 4S.
WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?
Who knows????
Having Caspar Milquetoasted, I certainly bid 4S.
WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?
Who knows????
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Posted 2008-February-18, 07:16
Partner knows I open all 1-suiters in ♠ directly, so this shows a 2-suiter in ♠.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 07:21
rogerclee, on Feb 18 2008, 08:05 AM, said:
655321, on Feb 18 2008, 06:01 AM, said:
(2) Yes, I bid. Double (only if clearly takeout) is possible
What? You want partner to bid 5♦?
Probably I would bid 4♠ instead of double, but double to me is a plausible bid.
No, I don't want partner to bid 5♦
But, he might pass the double, he might bid 4♠, or even 5♣. And if he bid 5♦ he might have 6 of them. Certainly, we could be in trouble by bidding, but we could also be in trouble by passing. Always a pity to go -420 when you could have gone +420.
rogerclee, on Feb 18 2008, 08:05 AM, said:
WOW. You expect 4♠ to not get doubled?
Perhaps RHO has KQJTx of spades and partner is void. Perhaps partner has AKxx of spades, and they break 2-2. Who knows?
But they dealt you 5-5 in the blacks, good playing strength, and it feels very bad to sell out meekly to 4♥. If I end up going for a number, it won't be the first or the last time, but the IMPS I lose by going for 800 or 1100 are no worse than the IMPS you lose by going -420 or +50 when you are cold for game.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 08:21
Pass quietly both times.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 09:18
bid loudly both times.
1 Club opening ( I know I know I know I know I know (To quote ABBA) nobody opens 1 Club with 5/5 blacks any more. I do.)
After I chickend out first round, 4 Spade now to show a two suiter.
1 Club opening ( I know I know I know I know I know (To quote ABBA) nobody opens 1 Club with 5/5 blacks any more. I do.)
After I chickend out first round, 4 Spade now to show a two suiter.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 09:55
If going to open I open 1♣ because I only have 4 spades.
I like to overcall 4♠ at second round, my partner already knows this shows a 2 suiter.
I like to overcall 4♠ at second round, my partner already knows this shows a 2 suiter.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 10:30
And how do all these 2-suiter guaranteeing people bid a 6-4 hand in the majors now, or is passing every 6-4 hand to begin with illegal? Not to mention 7-4.... I still probably pass to begin with, and then double later.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 11:46
pass with 7-4? I don't even pass with 6-4, only if the 6 card suit sucks, and the 4 card suit is another major.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 12:29
Gerben42, on Feb 18 2008, 01:16 PM, said:
Partner knows I open all 1-suiters in ♠ directly, so this shows a 2-suiter in ♠.
agree, though I'm not sure I'd be so frisky as to bid here
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Posted 2008-February-18, 12:40
I'd open 1♠, myself, but I think that I am being sick when I do that.
That said, I have to agree that any action after passing initially must show a two-suiter with terrible spades, IMO.
I might open 1♣ a lot, actually.
That said, I have to agree that any action after passing initially must show a two-suiter with terrible spades, IMO.
I might open 1♣ a lot, actually.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 12:42
I'd open this 1♣, playing with my regular partner. If that's no option I pass.
After opening 1♣ I'll back in with 4♠.
Having passed originally this is much tougher. I'd probably still come alive with 4♠, but passing is (much) closer now.
After opening 1♣ I'll back in with 4♠.
Having passed originally this is much tougher. I'd probably still come alive with 4♠, but passing is (much) closer now.
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Posted 2008-February-18, 13:13
I open 1♣.
I can't bring myself to bid this spade suit at the four-level.
I can't bring myself to bid this spade suit at the four-level.
Wayne Burrows
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dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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