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#1 User is offline   Randy 

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Posted 2008-February-29, 23:40

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You are South. East is Dealer, at all Vul and opens 1♠.
Would you act?

If not, if it goes 1♠ -- p -- 2♠ -- Pass back to you, would you act now?
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Posted 2008-March-01, 00:01

I would pass the first time for certain.

I might double the second time, depending on my mood.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 00:41

I would double over 1S, stuff like this is a good reason why. If I passed 1S I would feel compelled to balance in a now way-more-dangerous situation.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 00:48

I think it is close the first time around, and I would probably double, simply because I cannot stand bidding over 2♠ with this hand. 2♣ is nowhere near the running.

Pass the second time around comfortably. My hand is super-defensive.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 01:52

dbl first time
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Posted 2008-March-01, 01:53

Comfortable pass both times around.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 02:11

Jlall, on Mar 1 2008, 06:41 AM, said:

I would double over 1S, stuff like this is a good reason why. If I passed 1S I would feel compelled to balance in a now way-more-dangerous situation.

not really "way more dangerous", but more dangerous certainly

Anyway, I would probably pass + 3♣. Somehow, my instinct told me not to dbl 1st round. Go figure..
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Posted 2008-March-01, 07:31

FWIW, one thing I like about doubling late with this pattern, if I do, is that partner will expect a few things accurately.

1. I probably have only three hearts
2. My minors may well me lopsided.

This means that he is likely to scramble 2NT a lot more.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 07:37

Pass both times, but dbl first time is close.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 10:25

double first time, everything seems right for that bid, failing to do so I would reopen only against bad players (they always bid 3♠ anyway).
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Posted 2008-March-01, 11:15

I would pass the first time and double the second. I don't hate double the first time, obv hate 2♣ though.

I probably wouldn't balance if opponents were playing 2♠ is always three.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 11:55

jdonn, on Mar 1 2008, 12:15 PM, said:

I would pass the first time and double the second. I don't hate double the first time, obv hate 2♣ though.

I probably wouldn't balance if opponents were playing 2♠ is always three.

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Posted 2008-March-01, 12:52

If I'm going to bid, it will be on the first round. No reason to get to the 3 level with a crappy balanced hand with Qx in the enemy suit. I'm fine with pass throughout.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 17:27

I'll pass both times
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Posted 2008-March-01, 18:31

mikestar, on Mar 1 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

I'm fine with pass throughout.

This seems to be the general attitude of a lot of people, and I am really really surprised. It goes against everything I know and believe about bridge to be happy to pass throughout with this hand. You are much tougher to play against if you are constantly putting pressure on the opponents in partscore battles, and imo you win a lot more imps.
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Posted 2008-March-01, 18:59

Jlall, on Mar 1 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

mikestar, on Mar 1 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

I'm fine with pass throughout.

This seems to be the general attitude of a lot of people, and I am really really surprised. It goes against everything I know and believe about bridge to be happy to pass throughout with this hand. You are much tougher to play against if you are constantly putting pressure on the opponents in partscore battles, and imo you win a lot more imps.

I think this is great post and great thread comments.

I was going to pass throughout...I thought my hand just too weak and only 3h to double...but I see many disagree...and say just compete over 1s even with this hand?
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Posted 2008-March-02, 15:06

I am not offering the three-level with ♠ Qx .

Double the first time is closest for me - get in the auction and out quickly - but I would probably pass.
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