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Yet another 4NT

#1 User is offline   3for3 

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Posted 2009-October-10, 16:58

Playing with a good partner, you see the following:

3♦/P/P/4NT

What is partner doing?

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Posted 2009-October-10, 17:14

Asking you to pick a minor.
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Posted 2009-October-10, 17:36

I think it's a very strong club-major two-suiter.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-October-10, 17:44

Asking for Specific Aces.

Here is a simpler version than the Pinpoint Blackwood that I've posted before:

5C = no aces
5D/H/S = shows the ace in the bid suit
5NT = club ace
6C = any two aces

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Edit... addition:
Over 3minor preempt :
4C ( always) = 2-suiter, other minor and a major, 4D asks for Major.
4D ( always ) = both majors
4M = long Major, to play.
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Posted 2009-October-10, 20:47

gnasher, on Oct 10 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

I think it's a very strong club-major two-suiter.

Thats what I said when I was asked
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Posted 2009-October-10, 20:48

Making a natural bid.
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Posted 2009-October-10, 21:12

Ugh, I read the opeing as 3♥, not 3♦...yea def ♣ + major
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Posted 2009-October-11, 07:06

What would 4D Q-bid show or start showing? Now, what is left to 4N?
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Posted 2009-October-11, 07:18

dake50, on Oct 11 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

What would 4D Q-bid show or start showing? Now, what is left to 4N?

4♦ would show both majors.
That's why 4NT would show a M♣ 2-suiter.
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Posted 2009-October-11, 10:22

Unless playing 4♣ as two-suited, I think 4♦ should include diamond-major two-suiters, just not the very strong ones.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-October-11, 10:36

My answer (same as in another forum) is that it shows a hand that does not want to Dbl despite being strong. When I sort out why there was no Double then I can logically conclude it is a two suiter with clubs and hearts. With hearts and spades, 4D works fine. With spades and clubs, hmm.
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Posted 2009-October-11, 10:49

I play:
4♣=♣ and Major
4♦=Both majors
4NT= Not Defined. If my partner bids this then I would take it as a very strong 2-Suiter (Like 2 or 3 loosers)
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Posted 2009-October-11, 10:53

monster with club only. those are the hands that suffer from playing nlm. of course it must be very specific. not playing nlm it is a twosuiter
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Posted 2009-October-11, 11:33

helene_t, on Oct 11 2009, 11:53 AM, said:

monster with club only. those are the hands that suffer from playing nlm. of course it must be very specific. not playing nlm it is a twosuiter

I dont play NLM but I like this logic a lot if I did play it.
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