[jjbrr]

north shouldn't have passed the first time if partner can open 3N with that hand. north shouldn't pass the double now.

[Trinidad]

I am not a fan of Gambling 3NT. It's a convention that never comes up and when it does, it puts the right contract in the wrong hand.

But since it is so rare, I would not change the requirements of the bid with seat (except maybe for fourth seat, since 4th seat "preempts" are entirely different anyway).

So, if my agreement for a 3NT opening is that it has a solid minor with 8 likely tricks without anything on the side then I would stick with that agreement for every seat, unless we are talking about an expert partnership that plays more than 100 boards per week.

Rik

[jdonn]

billw55, on Oct 16 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

jdonn, on Oct 16 2009, 10:24 AM, said:

And besides, then whose fault is it when partner had QJTx QJTx Ax xxx?

Indeed! Which goes back to an earlier question - is north obligated to pull when he does not have such a hand?

And if north does have such a hand, what is west doubling on?

First question, north is obligated to pull when it's right, but 3NT opposite a passed hand should show better stoppers so he needn't have a hand as good as my example.

Second question, there are 23 HCP missing with the actual south opposite my example...

[ArtK78]

billw55, on Oct 16 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

Nobody answered me

Really I would like to know, is south barred from pulling this himself? Opposite a passed hand?

How can South pull? He opened 3NT. He apparently believes that his hand is appropriate for the bid. His partner heard the double and passed. That is the end of the discussion.

[Jlall]

Norths pass is fine since 3N in third seat is to play, not a solid suit with no outside A or K. South is on crack.

Play the king. If you play the jack it's like youre trying to limit your damage to down 3 if you're very very lucky.

[Trinidad]

OleBerg, on Oct 16 2009, 12:07 PM, said:

How do you describe partners pass? (You are long time friends, and have a friendly but rough tone, so creativety is allowed.)

Talking about your bridge experience: It has the same color as your bidding card.
Talking about your face: It has the same color as his bidding card.
Talking about my mood: It has the same color as the card that you fortunately left in your bidding box.

Rik

[bid_em_up]

OleBerg, on Oct 16 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

The lead is the ♥7, fourth best.
What do you play from dummy?

K♥. It's your only chance to make.

Duh!!


You say "Nice pass partner" as you chalk up +650.

[ochinko]

I smell reverse psychology.

No, I haven't peeked in the database. Having read his posts I just think Oleberg is a better player than that.

Come on, tell us. Your partner not only didn't pull, he misplayed ♥ as well, right?

[OleBerg]

ochinko, on Oct 17 2009, 08:45 PM, said:

I smell reverse psychology.

No, I haven't peeked in the database. Having read his posts I just think Oleberg is a better player than that.

Come on, tell us. Your partner not only didn't pull, he misplayed ♥ as well, right?

Well, thank you for your nice words. And you are correct indeed.

I do feel however, that if partner has opened 3NT he shouldn't pull. And the blame for for the silly contract might as easily lie with me, as it was a casual partnership, and we hadn't discussed the difference between 1./2. and 3. hand 3NT openings.

The only thing I found really interesting, was whether you would add an almost 100% certain 300 to your opponents score, in return for a far-out chance to win the contract.

Scoreboard, quite competent field:


3NT D 5 800 10 -10
5KL D 8 500 4 -4
5KL D 8 500 4 -4
5KL D 8 500 4 -4
5KL D 8 500 4 -4
4KL 8 100 -6 6
4HJ 9 50 -9 9
4HJ 9 50 -9 9