[MinorKid]

Scoring: IMP

N - S
2♣ 2♦
2♥ 3♦
3♥ 4♦
7♦!

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EDIT: The hand has changed. this is the right one in the club. Too tired...
Sorry! The bidding should be the same of course. I truly remember i have bid ♦ 3 times.

Playing pairs,
It was 22:25pm , nearly the close of the club. We were still running the last board.
Feeling too tired, and respectful of my partner's bid,
I let 7♦ go.
Both 7♦ and 7♥ makes but we went home without seeing the IMP.

Do you think we had the top ranking for this board?

Scoring: IMP

E-W Hands

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Lead on my table: ♠A i ruffed it by ♦5 (should be ♦A) from dummy without blanking an eye, leading to my memory confusion.

[jukmoi]

I dont see how you can make 7♥ and 7♦ by South on club lead requires a finesse or 22 ♦. You have to guess which.

I would be surprised if more pairs than 1/10 will bid 7♦.

[MinorKid]

Lead a club from ♣K-J-x-x against grand slam?

[MinorKid]

jukmoi, on Apr 7 2010, 05:01 AM, said:

I dont see how you can make 7♥ and 7♦ by South on club lead requires a finesse or 22 ♦. You have to guess which.

I would be surprised if more pairs than 1/10 will bid 7♦.

Do you also expects 6♦ / 6♥ ?

It is our last board, so my partner put full chips to the table, to impress those reading the scores perhaps, and the bidding is within his imagination too.

[Jlall]

7D is an excellent contract, you did well to bid it. 7H has no play.

[MinorKid]

Jlall, on Apr 7 2010, 05:26 AM, said:

7D is an excellent contract, you did well to bid it. 7H has no play.

EDIT: the hand had CHANGED
SORRY . I am still tired thinking about that board.


I am sure i have an entry. Both contract makes.

[jukmoi]

MinorKid, on Apr 7 2010, 05:09 AM, said:

Lead a club from ♣K-J-x-x against grand slam?

Maybe not. Then again it is about 100 % that ♣A that will be in the dummy.

[MinorKid]

jukmoi, on Apr 7 2010, 05:34 AM, said:

MinorKid, on Apr 7 2010, 05:09 AM, said:

Lead a club from ♣K-J-x-x against grand slam?

Maybe not. Then again it is about 100 % that ♣A that will be in the dummy.

I tested with my software and the lead is still ♠A when i inputed the wrong hand and the right hand.

[MinorKid]

Jlall, on Apr 7 2010, 05:26 AM, said:

7D is an excellent contract, you did well to bid it.

It was my favourite partner, a full time associate engineering student.
Meanwhile i was just painting a picture to him.

Gee i went home without waiting for the hand sheet.

[vuroth]

Considering the enormous variance different fields can have, no idea if it's a good score or not. My guess would be that you're getting a decent score more times than not.

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I dont see how you can make 7♥ and 7♦ by South on club lead requires a finesse or 22 ♦. You have to guess which.

Am I missing something, or is there a far, far better line than taking the club finesse?

[ArtK78]

A decent score? I would expect a superior score for bidding and making 7♦ on these cards at IMP scoring.

Even at matchpoints it should be a good score, possibly a very good score.

[bid_em_up]

vuroth, on Apr 7 2010, 06:39 AM, said:

Am I missing something, or is there a far, far better line than taking the club finesse?

Yes.

[jjbrr]

I dont understand what's going on in this thread.

You bid a grand at the club and you think you didnt get a great board?

[MinorKid]

jjbrr, on Apr 7 2010, 09:16 AM, said:

I dont understand what's going on in this thread.

You bid a grand at the club and you think you didnt get a great board?

Okay what will U do after 4♦ ?

[jjbrr]

I won't get to 7♥, but I will get to 7♦ via 5♠ 5NT (0) 6♣ (Q?) 7♦ (yes)

[jdonn]

7♦ and 7♥ are both completely cold, has the hand changed? Anyway I expect you scored GREAT for 7♦.

[vuroth]

jjbrr, on Apr 7 2010, 11:01 AM, said:

I won't get to 7♥, but I will get to 7♦ via 5♠ 5NT (0) 6♣ (Q?) 7♦ (yes)

How many diamonds do you think partner has?

If it's 7, you don't care if partner hast he queen. If it's 6, you do care. Right?

W

[Jlall]

jdonn, on Apr 7 2010, 11:57 AM, said:

7♦ and 7♥ are both completely cold, has the hand changed? Anyway I expect you scored GREAT for 7♦.

Yeah the hand got edited while I was sleeping

7H still seems down on 5-1 hearts or a diamond ruff so completely cold is an overbid. IIRC 5-1 hearts is like 15 %, and 3-0 diamonds a certain way is like 10 %. Not trying to nitpick, that is very far from cold though!

[jdonn]

Jlall, on Apr 7 2010, 12:11 PM, said:

jdonn, on Apr 7 2010, 11:57 AM, said:

7♦ and 7♥ are both completely cold, has the hand changed? Anyway I expect you scored GREAT for 7♦.

Yeah the hand got edited while I was sleeping

7H still seems down on 5-1 hearts or a diamond ruff so completely cold is an overbid. IIRC 5-1 hearts is like 15 %, and 3-0 diamonds a certain way is like 10 %. Not trying to nitpick, that is very far from cold though!

Um, he showed us the opponents hands too! I'll stick with completely cold.

[jjbrr]

vuroth, on Apr 7 2010, 10:58 AM, said:

jjbrr, on Apr 7 2010, 11:01 AM, said:

I won't get to 7♥, but I will get to 7♦ via 5♠ 5NT (0) 6♣ (Q?) 7♦ (yes)

How many diamonds do you think partner has?

If it's 7, you don't care if partner hast he queen. If it's 6, you do care. Right?

W

Correct. He could have Txxxxx, in which case I might go low road.

There's no reason to expect him to have 7, although he certainly could have 7.