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Posted 2010-April-20, 20:03

cherdanno, on Apr 20 2010, 07:51 PM, said:

Believe it or not, this is not by accident! I tried to make the point that even someone following the ace-rule should come to the conclusion that the hand in the thread is a clear pass...
Anyway:
- If the international you quoted is really any good then I am sure he would pass here anyway.
- I would recommend taking generic advice ("bid 3N when it is an option") from an International less seriously than specific advice ("you need 18+ hcp to act here") from a World Class player. Especially when it is not clear whether the person you are quoting for the generic advice would even mention it in this particular circumstance.

(Nothing much to add but ...)

John Maclaren is dead but his Ace Extra Test is still valid. Of course, I accept that he might have recommended a pass rather than a second double on this hand.

With a good 4144, however, to me it seems timid to sell out to 1N. I think it is reasonable to double again at the one-level, in the hope of finding a fit. For result-merchants, 2 here might still be a fair contract even if East had a weaker hand.

Partner's bid may help the defence even if opponents go on to win the auction. If partner passes the second double, useful new inferences may be available; you might even find the killing spade lead.
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Posted 2010-April-21, 00:56

I guess we all agree that you should think about another bid, if your hand is an ace stronger then it could be.
But to think about a second double is not the same as to make one.

And for your suggetion to run to 2 with the East hand: So you want to write +90, while + 300 are possible if partner has a REAL double of 1 NT?

No sorry, 2 club would show the same est hand with an ace less...
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Posted 2010-April-21, 01:16

Codo, on Apr 21 2010, 01:56 PM, said:

I guess we all agree that you should think about another bid, if your hand is an ace stronger then it could be.
But to think about a second double is not the same as to make one.

And for your suggetion to run to 2 with the East hand: So you want to write +90, while + 300 are possible if partner has a REAL double of 1 NT?

No sorry, 2 club would show the same est hand with an ace less...

Agree with Roland again.
I also agree with his first post, that the first x is obvious, but the second is not a good bid.
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