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♠109xx
♥x
♦10x
♣AK10xxx
NS vulnerable
(1♦)-pass-(1♥)-pass
(2♥)-pass-(pass)-??
If you had acted the round before say so (and how)
reopen? how?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:05
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:11
Are we NS ?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:18
yes the vulnerable side
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:28
I have no idea.
I see arguments for different styles of reopening here which depends heavily on what you overcall with.
Despite playing all natural there are more options.
Some of my polish friends like to play that dbl is 4♠-5+minor here (so responder could bid 2NT to ask doubler to show his minor).
I am not big fan of this style.
There is also a point in playing that 2♠ is now 4♠-5+m as you would overcall round before with 5spades and if the hand was too weak it's still to weak now.
If I play all natural I think I would be tempted by 2♣ round before. I know we are vulnerable and all but it's 6-4 which might be lost later.
I see arguments for different styles of reopening here which depends heavily on what you overcall with.
Despite playing all natural there are more options.
Some of my polish friends like to play that dbl is 4♠-5+minor here (so responder could bid 2NT to ask doubler to show his minor).
I am not big fan of this style.
There is also a point in playing that 2♠ is now 4♠-5+m as you would overcall round before with 5spades and if the hand was too weak it's still to weak now.
If I play all natural I think I would be tempted by 2♣ round before. I know we are vulnerable and all but it's 6-4 which might be lost later.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 12:46
Perfect hand for an Astro cuebid.
2♥ at your first turn would have shown 6+ clubs and exactly 4 spades.
Whether you have enough playing strength for this action vul vs. not probably depends on the quality of your opponents.
2♥ at your first turn would have shown 6+ clubs and exactly 4 spades.
Whether you have enough playing strength for this action vul vs. not probably depends on the quality of your opponents.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 13:17
I would have bid 2C the previous round.
Edit: I think doubling the previous round might also be okay but it's a little weird.
Edit: I think doubling the previous round might also be okay but it's a little weird.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 13:18
Probably 2♣ last round. Double looks normal this round but maybe I could be sold on 3♣ since partner sometimes bids a 3 card spade suit here if we double. In fact I'm kind of on the fence.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 13:36
Fluffy, on Aug 26 2010, 06:05 PM, said:
♠109xx
♥x
♦10x
♣AK10xxx
NS vulnerable
(1♦)-pass-(1♥)-pass
(2♥)-pass-(pass)-??
If you had acted the round before say so (and how)
♥x
♦10x
♣AK10xxx
NS vulnerable
(1♦)-pass-(1♥)-pass
(2♥)-pass-(pass)-??
If you had acted the round before say so (and how)
2C is probably ok, now 3C is too dangerous.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 14:08
2♣ first round...
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 14:50
2C last round.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 15:34
x now (assuming MP). Pass is OK too
I think 2♣ on the first round is certifiable. It solves this problem now that they have passed out and gets you in a level sooner but how about all the other hands where you're supposed to have your unfavorable overcall in the death chair?
I think 2♣ on the first round is certifiable. It solves this problem now that they have passed out and gets you in a level sooner but how about all the other hands where you're supposed to have your unfavorable overcall in the death chair?
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Posted 2010-August-26, 15:59
2♣ the round before, 3♣ now.
Yes I'm buring the spades. This is because pard rates not to have more than 4 of them for obvious reasons.
Yes I'm buring the spades. This is because pard rates not to have more than 4 of them for obvious reasons.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 19:32
gwnn, on Aug 26 2010, 03:08 PM, said:
2♣ first round
Agree with this.
hanp, on Aug 26 2010, 03:50 PM, said:
2C last round
Agree with this too!
We would like to have more values to overcall 2♣ at this vulnerability, and I would apologize if something went wrong, but with such a good suit, and the 6-4 shape, it seems to me that more good things than bad things will happen after bidding immediately.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 19:54
Don't like 2C the round before at this vul. At this vul I like my partners to assume I have my bid and if the points arent adding up, the opps are probably the ones screwing around. So unlike at other vulnerabilities,
I would double now
I would double now
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Posted 2010-August-26, 21:01
JLOGIC, on Aug 26 2010, 08:54 PM, said:
Don't like 2C the round before at this vul. At this vul I like my partners to assume I have my bid and if the points arent adding up, the opps are probably the ones screwing around. So unlike at other vulnerabilities,
I would double now
I would double now
Agree 100%.
BTW -- 2S should be something like 5134/5143 with dubious spades, IMO.
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Posted 2010-August-26, 21:02
I really do not like 2C on the first round for the reasons posted above. I would also double now.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 00:01
X now. It could work out badly, but I think it gains well over half the time.
NV I would have Sandwiched on the first round; favorable I might like an obstructionist 3C better than an off-values 2C. Vulnerable I'm not willing to act the first round.
NV I would have Sandwiched on the first round; favorable I might like an obstructionist 3C better than an off-values 2C. Vulnerable I'm not willing to act the first round.
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kenrexford, on Aug 26 2010, 10:01 PM, said:
JLOGIC, on Aug 26 2010, 08:54 PM, said:
Don't like 2C the round before at this vul. At this vul I like my partners to assume I have my bid and if the points arent adding up, the opps are probably the ones screwing around. So unlike at other vulnerabilities,
I would double now
I would double now
Agree 100%.
BTW -- 2S should be something like 5134/5143 with dubious spades, IMO.
Can't you just have a bad hand with 6 spades? I don't think you have to bid directly r/w with that, and you certainly can't pass it out.
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Posted 2010-August-27, 00:22
3C.
I think Pass the round before is ok.
With kind regards
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I think Pass the round before is ok.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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WTP pass followed by X. Almost a textbook hand. I play that 2S here is showing clubs tol. With 6 lousy S i bid 1/2 S or pass forever. Im not a big believer of balancing with single suiter
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