[CSGibson]

Scoring: MP

(2♥)-P-(P)-?

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Playing in a club game with decent opponents, expert partner. 2♥ is a normal weak 2 bid, your agreements over weak 2 bids include leaping michaels & all that entails.

[JLOGIC]

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

[CSGibson]

JLOGIC, on Sep 1 2010, 11:23 PM, said:

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

3♥ is a stopper ask, and partner will bid 3N if you make that bid. Do you have a plan for follow-ups, or will you be happy playing 3N?

[bluecalm]

Obviously he won't be happy playing 3NT.
I think the plan is to bid 4♦ after 3NT and be in good position to make grand slam move.
For example:

2♥ 3♥ pass 3NT
pass 4♦ pass 4NT (to play)
pass 5♥ hoping partner cuebids his A♣ now.

[JLOGIC]

CSGibson, on Sep 2 2010, 01:30 AM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 1 2010, 11:23 PM, said:

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

3♥ is a stopper ask, and partner will bid 3N if you make that bid. Do you have a plan for follow-ups, or will you be happy playing 3N?

I will always play at least slam. I'm going to bid 4D as bluecalm suggests and try to get a club cue.

[Free]

3♥ followed by 4♦ seems an obvious start.

[pooltuna]

JLOGIC, on Sep 2 2010, 01:23 AM, said:

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

on this auction if 3♥=stopper, 4♥=splinter, does 5♥=exclusion?

[Fluffy]

4NT then 6♦ partner will know what to do with ♣A

[gnasher]

If you bid 3♥ and partner doesn't bid 3NT, is 4♦ forcing?

[gwnn]

6♦. please don't start again with the jokes.

[pooltuna]

gwnn, on Sep 2 2010, 09:39 AM, said:

6♦. please don't start again with the jokes.

you mean 6♣ right? (sorry since you asked for no jokes I couldn't resist)

[aguahombre]

gnasher, on Sep 2 2010, 07:43 AM, said:

If you bid 3♥ and partner doesn't bid 3NT, is 4♦ forcing?

Good question. If Partner bids 3S or 4C, then what? I think one more Ht bid, then 6D.

My problem is: if partner does not bid 3NT, and I can't set diamonds as trump and forcing yet --a club bid by partner is not a cue.

[aguahombre]

Fluffy, on Sep 2 2010, 07:38 AM, said:

4NT then 6♦ partner will know what to do with ♣A

Will he know where he can put the Heart Ace?

[JLOGIC]

gnasher, on Sep 2 2010, 08:43 AM, said:

If you bid 3♥ and partner doesn't bid 3NT, is 4♦ forcing?

No you'd have to bid 4H next if he bid 4C. I think. Actually would 4N over 4C be regular blackwood (we know he doesn't have the heart ace...)

[ONEferBRID]

pooltuna, on Sep 2 2010, 08:37 AM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 2 2010, 01:23 AM, said:

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

on this auction if 3♥=stopper, 4♥=splinter, does 5♥=exclusion?

Since all we are looking for is the Cl Ace, I'll ask again for you.

Is a direct 5♥-jump = Exclusion ?

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BTW, 4♥ is either the minors or Blackwood

Some use (2M) - 4M = a) Blackwood, and in each case 4NT = Minors;
or b ) 4M = Minors and then 4NT is Blackwood in each case.

[aguahombre]

ONEferBRID, on Sep 2 2010, 02:53 PM, said:

BTW, 4♥ is either the minors or Blackwood

I assume you are referring to YOUR methods....maybe even those of the majority.

I answered above in keeping with the OP presumption that 3H=stopper ask, initially, though obviously correctible.

In ours, 3H is minors, and 4H the first time would be used with this hand. Context: 4C/4D Leaping Mike, double normal T/O....hence 4H could only be something like this, where balancer is not interested in Heart cards and has a self-sustaining suit. 4S in response would be nothing to say. 4NT would be a spade cue, 5m would be that cue......this allows for playing in 4S if advancer has crap.

Even though 3H=minors, advancer could bid 3NT with a double stop in hearts, no particular interest in the minors and last gasp for 3NT. We assume that advancer will know whether she has hearts stopped and doesn't particularly need to be asked.

[CSGibson]

ONEferBRID, on Sep 2 2010, 01:53 PM, said:

BTW, 4♥ is either the minors or Blackwood

Some use (2M) - 4M = a) Blackwood, and in each case 4NT = Minors;
or b ) 4M = Minors and then 4NT is Blackwood in each case.

I play that 4♥ is a stronger minor suit hand than 4N, but that both are minors.

[BudH]

pooltuna, on Sep 2 2010, 08:37 AM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 2 2010, 01:23 AM, said:

Is 3H stopper ask? If so that bid is pretty obvious imo.

If not I would bid 4H followed by 5H followed by 6D hoping partner will bid 7 when it's right.

on this auction if 3♥=stopper, 4♥=splinter, does 5♥=exclusion?

A common treatment is for a jump cuebid of a weak major suit 2-bid to show minors with strong slam interest. (4NT can be used with weaker and more distributional hands.)

I might still bid 4♥ since I have long diamonds and not clubs. I plan on bidding 6♦ on the next call after a 4♥ strong minor suit showing jump cue bid.

[ONEferBRID]

For Aquaman:

From Amalya Kearse's book: Bridge Conventions Complete and
the Bridge Encyclopedia :

( 2M ) - 3M! = stop-ask

( 2M ) - 4M! = big, minors hand

[hanp]

If you just agree that 4C, 4H and 4NT always ask for aces, bridge is much less complicated.