[gwnn]

pgwnned everyone

[peachy]

I don't think we have grand. 6C, reasonable hopes to make it.
If this was wrong, then I will have to apologize and move on.

[ONEferBRID]

matmat, on Sep 6 2010, 11:58 AM, said:

p's hand:
AKxxx, K, xx 8xxxx
is this an opener?

also, would you really FJ on 5224?

You raise some good points.

1) The 5-5 Sp/Cl hand is really too weak even for a sub-minimum 1C open.

2) Since the 1C open is 3+cards, you are right that the fit-jumper should have at least 5 cards; and normally the jump-suit is also 5 cards. That leaves only 3 red cards.
You have 2 of them covered w/Aces.
You don't need to worry about the ♣ Q with 10 cards, although pard may have it.

All you need from Responder is the ♠A and one red K fro 12 tricks:

1s, 1h, 1d, cAK, 6 X-ruffs and a red K = 12

If pard is missing the ♠A, you would need 2 red K's, and surely pard has to have some good stuff ( even as a passed hand ) for his fit-jump.

That said and done, gwnn's direct leap to 6C over pard's 2S-jump seems like a safe bet.

[TimG]

If a standard opener only has 3 clubs, then there is an 8+ card spade fit when responder fit jumps with 5xx4. I'm not sure why 5xx4 isn't enough black suit length.

[Siegmund]

Put me down for "you're on drugs if you consider going beyond 3NT."

People do play fit-jumps different ways; but in my partnerships, I expect 5 spades to two of the top three, at least 4 clubs, and values enough that he expects 2M or 3m to make opposite the worst hand I would open 1C here (and for me that's going to be a flat 11 that wants a club lead, or a moderately shapely 10 - no 7-HCP third seat craziness.) Partner has denied super-spectacular distribution that is serious about reaching game opposite a minimum; he jumped to only-2-spades, when he could have jumped to 3 (or cuebid 2D, or various other things). 5-2-2-4 and 5-3-1-4 are going to be a LOT more common than 5-5s. [How many of you allow opener to pass the 2S fit-jump if he has something like xxx Kxx Kxx AQxx?]

I consider it a virtual certainty that we will either have two red-suit losers, or a red-suit loser and the SA. The one exception, I guess, is when partner has downgraded a singleton honor in the red suits.

[bucky]

matmat, on Sep 5 2010, 01:16 PM, said:

♠6
♥AT82
♦AQ8
♣AKT96

IMPs. all red, 4th chair.

[P] [space]- [space]P [space]- [P] - 1[cl]
[1[di]] - 2[sp]* - [P] - ?

2♠ was a fit-jump.
what call do you make here?

if you bid 2nt here RHO continues with 3♦ and that comes back around to you.
if you bid 3nt, you play it there.
What are 3♥ and 3♦ here?

Assuming that you are playing 5-card major (therefore quite nebulous 1♣ opening), partner ought to be 5-5 or better in black suits for the fit-jump. Slam can be on if partner holds only SA. You may have a decent grand slam if partner has HK in addition. I think 2NT is awful (it doesn't even sound forcing). Either 3♦ or 3♥ is fine, but 3♦ preserves most bidding room.