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IMP pairs
opps using 15-17 INT
you are in 4th seat using SAYC
you hold
KQJ7
KJT8652
9
7
and hear the auction
P-P-1NT-?
Your call?
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Pick a call poison anyone?
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:13
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:25
Your choices are not SAYC. SAYC is X=penalty, suit bids=natural.
SAYC is not a flexible card. You are allowed only one or two alterations.
http://www.hegerm.ch/textes/sayc.html
SAYC is not a flexible card. You are allowed only one or two alterations.
http://www.hegerm.ch/textes/sayc.html
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:25
I will bid 2♥?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:27
who plays brozel haha, looks like a great hand for it though.
I bid 2H meckwell
I bid 2H meckwell
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Posted 2010-September-12, 10:55
I play Lionel which is similar to Brozel, but with natural 2M bids.
This would not be a good hand for Brozel, if you mean you'd like to show both majors with 2♥, partner will not know to pass when 3-1 or 3-0 in the majors.
This would not be a good hand for Brozel, if you mean you'd like to show both majors with 2♥, partner will not know to pass when 3-1 or 3-0 in the majors.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
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Posted 2010-September-12, 11:01
Since the real choices are some number of hearts, I choose 3. Maybe with the heart queen and a bullet, pard will raise.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2010-September-12, 11:05
Hi,
with 7-4, I wont introduce spades, so it is showing hearts, and given
the vulnerability 3H is enough, but 4H is not out of this world.
With kind regards
Marlowe
with 7-4, I wont introduce spades, so it is showing hearts, and given
the vulnerability 3H is enough, but 4H is not out of this world.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2010-September-12, 13:51
3H seems clear in this particulart scenario.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 16:39
Why is 3♥ 'clear'?
It's not an invitational bid, so he is not going to raise just because he has two aces or one ace and the ♥Q. He will need overall good cards + fit as well.
If we take the realistic view that our passed hand partner is not going to find a raise to 4♥ a significant portion of the time (when he can't raise 2♥ to 3) then there is only the risk left by bidding 3♥ instead of 2♥.
It's not an invitational bid, so he is not going to raise just because he has two aces or one ace and the ♥Q. He will need overall good cards + fit as well.
If we take the realistic view that our passed hand partner is not going to find a raise to 4♥ a significant portion of the time (when he can't raise 2♥ to 3) then there is only the risk left by bidding 3♥ instead of 2♥.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 16:42
MFA, perhaps partner will notice the vulnerability and take a wild guess that I noticed it, too.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2010-September-12, 17:19
Yeah I think 3H here shows a good hand like intermediate. I would just bid 2H though, minor suit kings are not useful at all and partner won't know that.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 17:33
JLOGIC, on Sep 12 2010, 11:19 PM, said:
Yeah I think 3H here shows a good hand like intermediate. I would just bid 2H though, minor suit kings are not useful at all and partner won't know that.
partner is sitting with a strong NT behind and will expect us to have a shortness somewhere, I don't think he will overvalue kings much.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 19:02
I'd bid 3H, surprised it's not more popular. If partner raises with an ace, it will probably be a decent game, and meanwhile it makes it tougher for them to decide between 5m and 3N.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 19:19
13 of 16 votes, in a close situation seems popular to me.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 19:31
I bid 3H. This is a very nice hand for transfer overcalls; bid 2D followed by 3H.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 00:34
I guess I am the lone voice in the wilderness, wanting to show both majors even with 4-7... (though the two-suited methods arent a part of basic SAYC its mighty rare I have someone want to play SAYC but NOT add one of them.) If I were playing one of the fancy 2-suited methods that lets me show whether my higher or lower suit is the longer, I will be even happier to use it.
If I don't hurry and press Submit I will let myself be talked into 3H
If I don't hurry and press Submit I will let myself be talked into 3H
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Posted 2010-September-13, 01:18
Siegmund, on Sep 13 2010, 03:34 PM, said:
I guess I am the lone voice in the wilderness, wanting to show both majors even with 4-7
You are the wild voice in the lonelines...
And there is a reson why you should not treat a one suiter as a two suiter.
Or do you prefer 4-2 fits to 7-0 fits?
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Roland
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2010-September-13, 02:40
4♥ for me, might be an overbid...
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