[lamford]

jdonn, on Sep 15 2010, 06:49 PM, said:

What if dummy has a stiff diamond and we had 4 TOP TRICKS! Like

Kxxxx Kxx x Axxx
xx AQxxx KQJx Kx

What if we blow a diamond trick but we had 4 TOP TRICKS! Like

Axxxx xxx Qxx Ax
xx AKQxx Kxxx Kx
(your second hand with the club queen changed to the king)
(yes he could always guess diamonds but give him a T and there might have been a guess for partner's jack, or he might just misguess diamonds anyway).

Then they would surely get to the cold 3NT on the first one, and in your second example it is still playless after the low diamond lead.

I tried hard to argue against the low diamond lead as well, and it was not my idea!

[lamford]

JLOGIC, on Sep 15 2010, 07:08 PM, said:

655321, on Sep 15 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

lamford, on Sep 15 2010, 06:25 PM, said:

North, who was the only player to find it in the entire room

I find that very easy to believe.

Easier to believe than partner putting up the queen. I guess if this guy always underleads Ax of declarers suit...

And what layout are you playing for if you put in the nine? And which partner leads a singleton with four trumps into the 2D bidder? Or a doubleton? You KNOW partner has the ace here, so it is trivial to put in the queen.

[jdonn]

lamford, on Sep 15 2010, 07:13 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 15 2010, 07:08 PM, said:

655321, on Sep 15 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

lamford, on Sep 15 2010, 06:25 PM, said:

North, who was the only player to find it in the entire room

I find that very easy to believe.

Easier to believe than partner putting up the queen. I guess if this guy always underleads Ax of declarers suit...

And what layout are you playing for if you put in the nine? And which partner leads a singleton with four trumps into the 2D bidder? Or a doubleton? You KNOW partner has the ace here, so it is trivial to put in the queen.

Partner might have 3 trumps...
And if your opponent rebid 2♦ with Axx and partner has Jxx? He may have had no good lead in other suits, like Qx of spades, ace of clubs, etc.

[JLOGIC]

lamford, on Sep 15 2010, 07:13 PM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 15 2010, 07:08 PM, said:

655321, on Sep 15 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

lamford, on Sep 15 2010, 06:25 PM, said:

North, who was the only player to find it in the entire room

I find that very easy to believe.

Easier to believe than partner putting up the queen. I guess if this guy always underleads Ax of declarers suit...

And what layout are you playing for if you put in the nine? And which partner leads a singleton with four trumps into the 2D bidder? Or a doubleton? You KNOW partner has the ace here, so it is trivial to put in the queen.

hahaha, perfect.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this hand is made up

[lamford]

jdonn, on Sep 15 2010, 09:15 PM, said:

And if your opponent rebid 2♦ with Axx and partner has Jxx? He may have had no good lead in other suits, like Qx of spades, ace of clubs, etc.

I don't think we will be beating it when West has six hearts, and 2D was systemically four cards. And Jxx into the 2D bidder would seem a poor choice.

[lamford]

JLOGIC, on Sep 15 2010, 10:22 PM, said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this hand is made up

I was shown the hand record sheet, folded to give it to me as a lead problem, so it was made up seemingly by a dealing program. All hands are made up - that is the beauty of the game.

I actually think the low diamond is right now, but was as sceptical as you for a long time.

[JLOGIC]

lamford, on Sep 16 2010, 03:14 AM, said:

JLOGIC, on Sep 15 2010, 10:22 PM, said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this hand is made up

I was shown the hand record sheet, folded to give it to me as a lead problem, so it was made up seemingly by a dealing program. All hands are made up - that is the beauty of the game.

I actually think the low diamond is right now, but was a sceptical as you for a long time.

Yeah and there is only 1 legit lead to beat it, a low diamond. Don't know how well you know the guy but it wouldn't shock me if he just made up that he led a low diamond and that his partner put in the queen for a story.

I'm glad you've convinced yourself it's the right lead!

[lamford]

JLOGIC, on Sep 16 2010, 04:22 AM, said:

Yeah and there is only 1 legit lead to beat it, a low diamond. Don't know how well you know the guy but it wouldn't shock me if he just made up that he led a low diamond and that his partner put in the queen for a story.

I thought this too; I don't know the guy at all - indeed I did not get his name.

[jdonn]

lamford, on Sep 16 2010, 03:08 AM, said:

jdonn, on Sep 15 2010, 09:15 PM, said:

And if your opponent rebid 2♦ with Axx and partner has Jxx? He may have had no good lead in other suits, like Qx of spades, ace of clubs, etc.

I don't think we will be beating it when West has six hearts, and 2D was systemically four cards. And Jxx into the 2D bidder would seem a poor choice.

Lol Jxx of diamonds into opener's suit is a poor lead therefore it's completely to assume partner must have Ax!