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What does 4NT,5H,5NT show here ?
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what do these bids show
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Posted 2010-October-31, 17:16
wow good question i have no idea hmmm
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Posted 2010-October-31, 19:03
The general standard treatments of these calls is something like this:
4N - 2 Suited Takeout, not necessarily Minors.
5♥ - Slam forcing(?), often 3 suited, this bid is somewhat ambigous
5N - Slam forcing, pick a slam. Support for ♠, ♦ and ♣, wanting to involve partner in the decision.
4N - 2 Suited Takeout, not necessarily Minors.
5♥ - Slam forcing(?), often 3 suited, this bid is somewhat ambigous
5N - Slam forcing, pick a slam. Support for ♠, ♦ and ♣, wanting to involve partner in the decision.
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Posted 2010-November-01, 09:45
I think the standard is 5♥ is invitational with spades, 5♠ sade slam try with no heart control and 5NT 2 places to play
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Posted 2010-November-01, 09:47
mtvesuvius, on 2010-October-31, 19:03, said:
The general standard treatments of these calls is something like this:
4N - 2 Suited Takeout, not necessarily Minors.
5♥ - Slam forcing(?), often 3 suited, this bid is somewhat ambigous
5N - Slam forcing, pick a slam. Support for ♠, ♦ and ♣, wanting to involve partner in the decision.
4N - 2 Suited Takeout, not necessarily Minors.
5♥ - Slam forcing(?), often 3 suited, this bid is somewhat ambigous
5N - Slam forcing, pick a slam. Support for ♠, ♦ and ♣, wanting to involve partner in the decision.
Not sure if you have any or enough differntiation between 5♥ and 5NT. I would think it would make sense for 5NT to be for the minors and 5♠ by partner would be forcing over 5♥
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Posted 2010-November-01, 09:48
I like to play 1-2-3 Stop in this situation.
It may shut out a further spade bid which I don;'t want to hear.
It tells my partner not to bid again.
It may shut out a further spade bid which I don;'t want to hear.
It tells my partner not to bid again.
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Posted 2010-November-01, 11:37
joramrose, on 2010-November-01, 09:48, said:
I like to play 1-2-3 Stop in this situation.
It may shut out a further spade bid which I don;'t want to hear.
It tells my partner not to bid again.
It may shut out a further spade bid which I don;'t want to hear.
It tells my partner not to bid again.
What is the meaning of this 1-2-3 stop ?
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Posted 2010-November-02, 15:41
WGF_Flame, on 2010-November-01, 11:37, said:
What is the meaning of this 1-2-3 stop ?
I believe he was referring to an auction like 1♠-2♠-3♠ being simply blocking, and not being invitational. It is not relevant to this situation at all.
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Posted 2010-November-02, 17:10
Let me clear a point,
If the opponents were bidding spades, I had much less question, but since they have bid Hearts, we have many doubts.
1. should 4NT be possible with the spade suit ? wouldn't this hand rather bid 4S ?
2.5H - since its still below 5S, wouldn't it make sense to play it as some invitational spade hand ?
If the opponents were bidding spades, I had much less question, but since they have bid Hearts, we have many doubts.
1. should 4NT be possible with the spade suit ? wouldn't this hand rather bid 4S ?
2.5H - since its still below 5S, wouldn't it make sense to play it as some invitational spade hand ?
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Posted 2010-November-03, 12:11
4NT shows minors. 5♥ shows spade slam invitation with heart control (5♠ bid would be invitational without heart control). 5NT should be pick-a-slam, perhaps a hand with 4 spades only.
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