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#1 User is offline   McBruce 

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Posted 2010-November-18, 12:40



The 2♠ call was explained as 'natural, at least 4 spades' when North asked after it was passed around to him.

North expressed considerable doubt that 2♠ was actually natural and asked several follow up questions as to whether it might in fact be a cue-bid, and what other options East had.

When North turned out to have psyched the 1♠ call, E-W were not amused. 4♦ was not a success, while 4♠ would have been fine, had North not talked E-W into believing that perhaps they had a misunderstanding.

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Posted 2010-November-18, 13:18

View PostMcBruce, on 2010-November-18, 12:40, said:



The 2♠ call was explained as 'natural, at least 4 spades' when North asked after it was passed around to him.

North expressed considerable doubt that 2♠ was actually natural and asked several follow up questions as to whether it might in fact be a cue-bid, and what other options East had.

When North turned out to have psyched the 1♠ call, E-W were not amused. 4♦ was not a success, while 4♠ would have been fine, had North not talked E-W into believing that perhaps they had a misunderstanding.

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Posted 2010-November-18, 13:19

North is coffeehousing, and blatantly so. Give him a PP for that. Adjust the score to 4♠ making 4 by EW for both sides (although I think one might make a case for an overtrick, either for both sides or for the OS).
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Posted 2010-November-18, 17:38

Give North a swingeing penalty. And adjust, obviously. That is beneath contempt. I don't think South will double 4♠ because it will (from his perspective) just get pulled to 5♦.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 18:14

Any thoughts to 4Sx, or 5Hx, or is it going to be screamingly obvious that North psyched?
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Posted 2010-November-18, 18:23

4♠X? :) the double coming form south...
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Posted 2010-November-19, 09:31

Im sure it's not legal but I would rule 4♠ doubled plus 1 to show my utter contempt for the coffee housing and pray that north had the gall to bring it in front of a committee.
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Posted 2010-November-19, 10:10

View Postggwhiz, on 2010-November-19, 09:31, said:

Im sure it's not legal but I would rule 4♠ doubled plus 1 to show my utter contempt for the coffee housing and pray that north had the gall to bring it in front of a committee.

It's certainly legal, it's just a judgement question as to whether the score is "at all probable" (to give it to N/S) or "likely" (to give it to both sides).
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Posted 2010-November-19, 18:36

We all want to adjust to 4♠ based on an infraction that occurred AFTER West passed 2♠? What makes you think that a side willing to pass in a partscore is going to compete all the way to 4♠ without the razzle-dazzle?
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Posted 2010-November-19, 18:46

They got to 4♦. West has ♠KQJT: I think it not unreasonable that he would correct to 4♠ without North's antics.
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