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Given the bidding: 2♣ - (2♠) - ?
What do these bids mean?
- Pass?
- Dbl?
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interference over 2 Clubs (strong)
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Posted 2010-November-30, 14:17
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Posted 2010-November-30, 14:31
Bids are natural positive responses.
Traditionally, X is negative in terms of values and positive in terms of spades: weak with some spades and no significant values outside spades.
Pass is waiting, including other negatives.
Traditionally, X is negative in terms of values and positive in terms of spades: weak with some spades and no significant values outside spades.
Pass is waiting, including other negatives.
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Posted 2010-November-30, 14:56
Traditionally, double was penalty and pass was neutral, often weak but sometimes simply unable to make a more descriptive call....especially if one's agreement was that bidding a suit showed a certain minimum suit quality.
But over the past 30 years (more or less), the expert community has tended to play that double is negative....in the sense of showing a very weak hand, rather than in the other 'negative double' sense of being takeout.
Now Pass is used to show a positive hand that doesn't meet whatever the partnership criteria are for bidding notrump, a suit, or a cuebid.
I would expect, in NA, that 90% or more of expert players would assume this treatment if playing with someone they recognized as expert, and without discussion.
If you play 2♦ positive and waiting, and 2♥ immediate 2nd negative, you can think of the double of 2♠ as showing the 2♥ immediate negative type of hand and the pass as showing the 2♦ postive, waiting type.
But over the past 30 years (more or less), the expert community has tended to play that double is negative....in the sense of showing a very weak hand, rather than in the other 'negative double' sense of being takeout.
Now Pass is used to show a positive hand that doesn't meet whatever the partnership criteria are for bidding notrump, a suit, or a cuebid.
I would expect, in NA, that 90% or more of expert players would assume this treatment if playing with someone they recognized as expert, and without discussion.
If you play 2♦ positive and waiting, and 2♥ immediate 2nd negative, you can think of the double of 2♠ as showing the 2♥ immediate negative type of hand and the pass as showing the 2♦ postive, waiting type.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 03:16
I like to play pass as GF, and Dbl is absolute crap.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 07:39
I still play penalty doubles, I don't think its a good treatment, but I rearelly open 2♣ anyway
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Posted 2010-December-01, 21:01
Double bust, pass neutral, new suit positive has been near-universal in my experience.
That is not so different, incidentally, from double=penalty ... the time you're most anxious to go after a penalty is when game for your side is not certain.
That is not so different, incidentally, from double=penalty ... the time you're most anxious to go after a penalty is when game for your side is not certain.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 22:33
2♥, x and xx are negs. Its on all my cc's.
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