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#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2011-July-08, 17:14


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You play a strong club, so partner won't have an unbalanced 10 count, or a balanced 11 count. Opponents are modern aggressive strong clubbers.
Your call over 2♣?
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Posted 2011-July-08, 17:21

pass wtp. even if we had been standard bidders.
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Posted 2011-July-08, 17:51

Double.
Partner, I don't play tempo signals...
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Posted 2011-July-08, 18:07

Pass is my choice, too. Even if 2NT is natural (which I suppose it is) it is too much for our hand.

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Posted 2011-July-08, 18:08

Can live with either pass or 2NT. Double belongs in the same planet as the "I know you mean well" thread in B/I. I'll go 2NT due to the likely 4M game. Would pass if they were vulnerable.
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Posted 2011-July-08, 21:48

Pass. (My meta-agreements say 2NT is Unusual opposite anything of opening-bid strength like Flannery or Precision 2C.) If 2NT was natural and strong I think this is still just barely a pass, with only 16 and no 2nd or 3rd club trick for the opps to set up for me.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 00:40

Sorry. Didn't mean to post this in Non-Natural discussions -- Was aiming for Interesting Bridge hands, but my hand-eye coordination sucks :P

Edit: Maybe Lurpoa will randomly upvote this post, since it really isn't relevant to the discussion, and is written in english.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 02:34

You haven't given the form of scoring.

At imps I overcall a normal 2NT. Why can't we have a vulnerable game on?
At matchpoints pass has more going for it.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 02:50

Pass, You still have a LHO and a partner, and otherwise you will defend 2♣

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Posted 2011-July-09, 06:06

well the choices look like pass, X, and 2NT. Probably you have to risk 2NT. X at least gets you to a major suit strain if you belong there. Pass puts the most pressure on partner to reopen assuming LHO passes
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Posted 2011-July-09, 06:19

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-July-09, 02:34, said:

You haven't given the form of scoring.

At imps I overcall a normal 2NT. Why can't we have a vulnerable game on?



Who said we can't have a vulnerable game on. Why would we have to overcall over 2N to find it?
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Posted 2011-July-09, 06:26

i would be happy to trust the 8 as a second stop, but i don't think the odds favour bidding. there's only only a small chance of game but there's a larger chance of -500 or -800 fron 2ntx. we're happy enough if the bidding dies here or if partner protects.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 07:34

Second edit -- IMPs, 24 board match.
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Posted 2011-July-09, 12:05

I don't understand why people think Dbl is an option, this hand doesn't even closely resemble a takeout Dbl (and don't tell me you play penalty Dbl here).

The choice is between pass and 2NT, the fact that partner has already passed makes it a lot less likely we'll have game and a lot more likely we'll run into a penalty Dbl, so I'll pass. Without passed partner I'd bid 2NT.
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Posted 2011-July-10, 14:37

Pass seems clear. If LHO passes and partner can't re-open, we don't have game. So therefore, by bidding 2NT, I expect to take 8 tricks in NT and have partner pass 2NT and the opponents have to be making 2♣ for us to have a worthwhile gain.
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Posted 2011-July-10, 14:59

Pass for me too.

This is the kind of hand where partner doubles and either they make or we get a small penalty instead of making our game. But I haven't learned my lesson yet and am still trying to penalize them.
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Posted 2011-July-10, 20:09

Pass opposite a passed hand. I would bid 2NT if partner were not passed. A double is totally out of the equation.
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Posted 2011-July-10, 21:42

pass wtp, over a balancing X i would bid 3C followed by 3NT unconvinced.
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Posted 2011-July-13, 01:09

Do I need to bid now? No. Pard has very short clubs, so he will certainly bid if he has points.

I'll pass, though 2NT can easily work much better.
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