[jmcw]

Matchpoints

---

Pass or bid?

[TWO4BRIDGE]

pass
I'm worried he has everything else ( and a long, nearly solid ♦suit ) EXCEPT for a ♠-stop ( ... like missing the ♠Ace )

[aguahombre]

I think the Long solid diamond suit and everything else but the spade ace theory is interesting. Not possible in my world, since 3D would be forcing and I am supposed to know if I have a spade stopper without him asking.

Another reason that theory might not work is because I might have QJX of spades, and his 6NT would look silly in that case. So now, we are back to whether pard is already expecting about 17 because we play a weak NT, which I assume we do or I never could have only bid 3NT unless assured that pard already knows I have a biggie. If he does know that, I pass.

[cherdano]

3NT shows a weak NT. This is a misbid, opposite a GF raise we should invite slam with 4NT natural if that is available, or by cuebidding 4♥.

Anyway, having bid 3NT is it obvious to raise 7NT. Partner showed a club fit, so we have 3 keycards for him, along with two useful kings.

[aguahombre]

ok, you must know the OP, but I didn't, and couldn't imagine 3NT with that hand, unless they already had a clue about opener's range.

[peachy]

6NT is not an invite to grand. Pass. It is too late to worry about opener's extras, he could have tried to show them earlier. Same for responder: if he were interested in grand he should not have skipped 3 levels of bidding.

[P_Marlowe]

pass, if p had any interest in my option, he could have asked me,
e.g. by bidding 5NT, he did bid 6NT instead.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[aguahombre]

Please, show me one hand partner can have consistent with his bidding, where my 18 pointer is not important, when I could have held an 11 pointer. In doing so, make it a hand where he has to know he can make six opposite that 11 count.

[farrnbach]

I see 6NT "to play", ok the 3S does not deny the S ace, but p has plenty of alternatives to look for a grand

I expect him for a solid D suit as source of tricks with no S stopper (but why did o not raise S, if p is very short? )

[Free]

pass, ♠A is out.

[MrAce]

-If pd is a sane person, there is only one hand that justifies his bid, if he has 19-20 hcp balanced hand. And he can not have this without ♠A.

-He started 3♠ because he did not know yet where to play and from which side yet, if we held a random 12-14 hcp perhaps the lead would matter in 6 NT, and i can see his concern from my ♥ holding especially when he holds Ax(x) ♠.

-He doesnt have long ♦s, or he would have started 3♦.

He must have something like

ATx
Qx
AKQ
KJxxx

Axx
Qxx
AKQ
KJxx

Anything less than this he has a 4NT bid. I think opponent was joking and we should be safe in grand. He could choose to be scientific and start with 4♣ over 3 NT to check if we have a ♥ control, i dunno why he did not, maybe he is a blaster, but i am bidding 7.

[Cascade]

Just questions ...

Could partner have asked for controls (aces) over 3NT?

When partner forced to game why didn't I bid more than 3NT with my 18 hcp?

[Free]

 MrAce, on 2011-September-05, 03:35, said:

-If pd is a sane person, there is only one hand that justifies his bid, if he has 19-20 hcp balanced hand. And he can not have this without ♠A.

-He started 3♠ because he did not know yet where to play and from which side yet, if we held a random 12-14 hcp perhaps the lead would matter in 6 NT, and i can see his concern from my ♥ holding especially when he holds Ax(x) ♠.

-He doesnt have long ♦s, or he would have started 3♦.

He must have something like

ATx
Qx
AKQ
KJxxx

Axx
Qxx
AKQ
KJxx

Anything less than this he has a 4NT bid. I think opponent was joking and we should be safe in grand. He could choose to be scientific and start with 4♣ over 3 NT to check if we have a ♥ control, i dunno why he did not, maybe he is a blaster, but i am bidding 7.

Why wouldn't he bid 4♣ instead of 6NT with these hands? There may be a much better minor suit slam, and he'll have more room to investigate grand.

[MrAce]

 Free, on 2011-September-05, 04:22, said:

Why wouldn't he bid 4♣ instead of 6NT with these hands? There may be a much better minor suit slam, and he'll have more room to investigate grand.

I already explained it, i would have bid 4♣ but pd did not. Not bidding 4♣ with this is not as weird as bidding 6 NT with anything less than this

 MrAce, on 2011-September-05, 03:35, said:

He could choose to be scientific and start with 4♣ over 3 NT to check if we have a ♥ control, i dunno why he did not, maybe he is a blaster, but i am bidding 7.

[the hog]

7NT for me. I agree that 3NT was a misbid and 4NT would have been correct. I don't see how partner can bid this way without the SA, after all, my 3NT could have been on QJx or similar.

[cherdano]

 the hog, on 2011-September-05, 05:38, said:

7NT for me. I agree that 3NT was a misbid and 4NT would have been correct. I don't see how partner can bid this way without the SA, after all, my 3NT could have been on QJx or similar.

In fact, my majors could have been ♠QJx ♥KJTx, and I would still have extras for a weak NT.

[JLOGIC]

lol @ not bidding.

Partner forced to slam rather than invite slam opposite what could be a 12 or 13 count, his hand should be better than ours.

[JLOGIC]

If we opened a weak NT with this hand and partner bid 6N would you guys not bid 7? I mean, lol, obviously it sucks that we miscounted our points but we are allowed to correct that.

[whereagles]

Obvious raise. A dozen posters above already said why.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

I hope OP posts partner's hand !