Experts
#1
Posted 2011-November-10, 06:21
What is the top 5 ranking of regular posters for their Bridge expertise?
=> to have an idea when:
- I have limited time which posts I should read first
- When their are contradicting opinions on bidding or play, which to take most seriously.
(not that all opinions are not important )
#2
Posted 2011-November-10, 08:17
My favourites are
Bidding : Justin, Gnasher, MikeH, 655321, FrancesHinden,Cherdano, Awm, Gwnn, Phil, Inquiry, Han, HeleneT, Free, Cyberyeti, Free, Wyman, Aguahombre, Mich-b, Nige1, Zelandakh, Jdeegan, and probably more (not in specific order but i really read what Justin , Andy and MikeH wrote each time )
Play/Defense: Justin (though he doesnt post much in those topics) Rhm, Andy, MikeH,FrancesHinden, Phil.
Specialized Experts :
BW expert : Lurpoa ♥ ♥ ♥
Unofficial A/E Forum moderator : Phil. If u are posting a topic here that doesnt belong here, Phil will let you know.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#3
Posted 2011-November-10, 08:28
Those are the only ones I could tell you being politically correct, you would be a fool if you ignored some 5-6 others, I have a list in my mind that ranks most of them but placing one over the other is subjective and something I won't do publically.
#4
Posted 2011-November-10, 08:47
Nevertheless I don't like these types of threads for obvious reasons like Fluffy said but I will freely give you my opinion at the bar.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#5
Posted 2011-November-10, 08:53
Fluffy, on 2011-November-10, 08:28, said:
Those are the only ones I could tell you being politically correct, you would be a fool if you ignored some 5-6 others, I have a list in my mind that ranks most of them but placing one over the other is subjective and something I won't do publically.
I agree with Gonzalo, and as i said in my post i didnt write them in specific order except than mentioning that i really favor 3 posters a lot. And i intended to say those are the people i usually read when they write something. Not neccesarilly better than those who i dont read.
To me it is not only about how good they are at bridge, but also how good they express their side of the story. English is not my native language, so i read posters in my fav list also for other reasons than just bridge.
For example there are very good players that i never read in the forums, those who abonden their own topic, those who use long page of explenations to explain a simple thing. (This happens due to lack of language skills especially for those of us who learnt this language later, and i am one of them, not in regards to being a very good player but a poor writer ) Those who feels like they have to reply each and every freaking post out there etc etc...
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#6
Posted 2011-November-10, 09:37
MikeH, Frances, Gnasher and Phil all post frequently and thoroughly, and are often thought-provoking. Also RHM but his bidding isn't to my taste!
I believe [but I'm not certain in all cases - I haven't played against them all] that Mich-B, Fluffy, Han, Cherdano, 655321, DBurn and myself are among the top players here, but we post less frequently and/or less thoroughly than the names mentioned above.
#7
Posted 2011-November-10, 10:21
Whether the poster is one of the exalted or not should take a back seat to determining if one or the other fits better into your overall bidding style and related agreements. The top expert posters are coming from different starting points of preferred style; and often their answers are influenced by premises which are different from yours.
Also, don't necessarily dismiss posts dripping with sarcasm. They often contain value in addition.
#8
Posted 2011-November-10, 10:22
He is certainly one of the very best players who posts here. Same goes for Ulven (Ulf Nilsson from Sweden).
Fred Gitelman
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#9
Posted 2011-November-10, 10:35
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#10
Posted 2011-November-10, 10:49
MrAce, on 2011-November-10, 08:17, said:
Bidding : Justin, Gnasher, MikeH, 655321, FrancesHinden,Cherdano, Awm, Gwnn, Phil, Inquiry, Han, HeleneT, Free, Cyberyeti, Free, Wyman, Aguahombre, Mich-b, Nige1, Zelandakh, Jdeegan, and probably more (not in specific order but i really read what Justin , Andy and MikeH wrote each time )
Heh. Happy to be among your favorites, but confirmed non-expert here
For me, I think I read carefully everything that Justin, awm, inquiry, and mikeh post. And I definitely listen when MrAce, Phil, Gnasher, FH, Cherdano, Free (listed twice in your list!!), Gwnn, and others (this is meant as further exaltation to these guys, not as a slight against others in MrAce's list) weigh in on close play or bidding decisions.
And kfay is my all-around bridge consiglieri, but he only posts rarely now that he's trying to become kfayhowsermd.
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
#11
Posted 2011-November-10, 11:24
#12
Posted 2011-November-10, 11:26
#13
Posted 2011-November-10, 11:35
kgr, on 2011-November-10, 11:24, said:
A specific ranking would, indeed, be 'petty'.
I agree that of those who post with any semblance of frequency, Fred and Justin would rank 1st and 2nd.
Fred posts all too infrequently, but, when he does, I find myself persuaded every time. Justin posts far more frequently and, perhaps as a consequence, I find myself disagreeing with him on occasion....but never because I think he is clearly wrong. Even when I remain unpersuaded, I usually feel I have learned something.
I am not going to comment on others, since I would likely offend people by omission or by being perceived as damning with faint praise. I would, however, like to single out Frances for the quality of the play problems she posts.
#14
Posted 2011-November-10, 11:37
Phil, on 2011-November-10, 10:35, said:
I think Michael is MFA and MFA1010.
As to the original question, I think I have personally made a short list of players whose opinions don't influence me much (based on me finding many of the answers strange to wrong), and then everyone else usually makes reasonable suggestions that I try to consider. The best players (and best writers) make more convincing arguments more frequently.
Never tell the same lie twice. - Elim Garek on the real moral of "The boy who cried wolf"
#15
Posted 2011-November-16, 04:35
In general I agree with Mickyb that you need a combination of thoughtfulness/well written posts combined with someone who knows bridge well. I think awm and frances are both a good combo of those and everyone could learn from them/their posts. Mikeh also.
It really depends what level you're at in who you will learn the most from. I mean I like gnasher and 655321 and hans posts a lot but sometimes you have to read between the lines and if you are a beginner or something some of the posts you will not gain that much from, but to me they are all really good at logic/thought so I gain a lot from their posts (even if I think they're wrong, I have to go through the excersize of where we differ because it is not usually just a logic error, it is some kind of evaluation difference). Also these people generally seem to aim their posts towards an expert audience.
Fred was the best poster ever obv, and if you ever get the chance to talk to him irl it is pretty much the same. Very clear thinker. And rhm is the fred of play/defense problems lol.
#17
Posted 2011-November-17, 04:10
whereagles, on 2011-November-17, 04:05, said:
Mystery man!
#18
Posted 2011-November-17, 04:18
About other posters: my personal favourite had always been jdonn and I still can't get over his absence.
George Carlin
#19
Posted 2011-November-17, 04:20
Never tell the same lie twice. - Elim Garek on the real moral of "The boy who cried wolf"
#20
Posted 2011-November-17, 04:55
Note: I'm honoured that MrAce likes my posts so much that he reads the all twice!