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but partner, I had 6 to the 9!

#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2012-April-11, 16:42



MP, NV, your call.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 17:28

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Posted 2012-April-11, 17:36

I would bid. I like voids and six card suits, but it certainly could work out badly.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 17:56

Serious question - is the 'go to' bid double or 3S? I'd double, but I'm not sure that is right.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 17:56

Pass. I like voids and 6 card suits too, but I also like hlding a hand to come in at this level.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 18:29

I only have an understanding partner to answer to at MP, and might just perpetrate a 3S bid at love all. That doesn't make it a good choice, and pard will also understand if I don't.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 20:31

As Frederic said to dear little Mabel..

I would if I could, but I am not able.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 20:52

Who does this hand belong to?

Opener has maybe 9 or 10 HCP, responder's hand HCPs are unknown but normally responder will have 3 marking partner with at least 4 s.

Responder can still have a fairly good hand -- up to a decent 11 or 12. So there's no guarantee that the hand belongs to your side.

So if the hand is passed back to partner, there's still a chance partner can choke out a reopening Dbl with a decent hand.

But with partner probably holding 4 s, what suit is partner's hand likely to be short in? s.

So I pass and bid 3 after a reopening Dbl.
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Posted 2012-April-11, 21:17

View Postrmnka447, on 2012-April-11, 20:52, said:

Who does this hand belong to?

Opener has maybe 9 or 10 HCP, responder's hand HCPs are unknown but normally responder will have 3 marking partner with at least 4 s.

Responder can still have a fairly good hand -- up to a decent 11 or 12. So there's no guarantee that the hand belongs to your side.

So if the hand is passed back to partner, there's still a chance partner can choke out a reopening Dbl with a decent hand.

But with partner probably holding 4 s, what suit is partner's hand likely to be short in? s.

So I pass and bid 3 after a reopening Dbl.

Interesting. You explain how many hearts partner has. You explain that he is likely short in spades. And, you conclude that he will reopen with a double and then you will bid spades.

I conclude from your premise that the auction is over right now, unless you bid 3S; and perhaps it is best that the auction is over right now, but am going to bid 3S anyway.
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Posted 2012-April-12, 01:01



-1, but close.
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