[canaya14]

♣IMPS. Red against white.
At third position you hold :

7 6
9 5 4
A K 10 5 3
8 4 2

Your partner opens 1 ♣ (can be as short as 2 cards) and RHO overcalls 1♥.
(note: according to your system 2♦ would be not forcing but showing some strength between 8/9 to 12 points)

Well, i passed, wich seems to be a winner decision according to what i posted here : http://www.bridgebas...age__mode__show

LHO passed, my partner rebid 2♣ and RHO rebid 2♥. I supported to 3♣ (seemed fairly obvious), LHO passed , partner passed as well, and RHO rebid 3 ♥.
What would you bid now? (or mention if you bid other than 3 clubs on second round)

[mike777]

pass I assume 3c shows some values/

would not be surprised if they make 4h.

give pard...


Qxx..x...xxx....AKQxxx

if pard has a big hand with short h he should double not bid 2c.
Give pard less clubs w short h and he should double not bid 2c.

btw something tells me pard had the tougher bid not us on this hand.

[SteveMoe]

I agree with mike777 and would add that this 5332 shape and 9 trumps means the 3-level should be our limit.

[rmnka447]

I also support pass. Partner did not double when the hand was passed back to him/her. So partner either has a minimum opener with just 5 ♣s or possibly just more long clubs than anything else. You've pushed the opponents up a level and you have 2 QTs, so defending isn't the end of the world.

Like someone said, you don't want to find pard with the long ♣ hand and push the opponents into a makable game.

[gszes]

While I would be surprised if they can make 3 at IMPS the possible
gain for an x is so small it is just plain not worth trying. We have
no guarantees 4c is right so we should opt to defend. I strongly suspect
p is something like 3316 for the 2c bid.


I would not be surpised at all if the defense started dia AK (p showing out)
dia ruff the only problem now is how many more tricks can we score.



The other downside to X is that the opps might be able to run to 3s which
might work out better for them than 3h.

[canaya14]

Well, for the record opener hand was
AJx
K
QJx
AKJxxx

He had a hard choice when deciding what to id for reopen, red against white, and choose to underbid (IMO)with 2 ♣.
After 2 ♥, 3 ♣, pass, pass 3 ♥, all passed, for 2 down opposed cold 6! Anyway i think ai cant go beyond 3 ♣ and it was my p responsability to went further after i showed some strength (with 3♣)

[Quartic]

canaya14, on 2012-July-16, 12:20, said:

Well, for the record opener hand was
AJx
K
QJx
AKJxxx

He had a hard choice when deciding what to id for reopen, red against white, and choose to underbid (IMO)with 2 ♣.
After 2 ♥, 3 ♣, pass, pass 3 ♥, all passed, for 2 down opposed cold 6! Anyway i think ai cant go beyond 3 ♣ and it was my p responsability to went further after i showed some strength (with 3♣)

Double seems right to me with your partner's hand.

[dkham]

Opener gambled to go low with 2♣, and it worked very badly.

[paulg]

canaya14, on 2012-July-16, 12:20, said:

Well, for the record opener hand was
AJx
K
QJx
AKJxxx

He had a hard choice when deciding what to id for reopen, red against white, and choose to underbid (IMO)with 2 ♣.

There may be hard decisions in the future but a reopening double is clear. You are not doubling because you expect partner to have a trap pass at this vulnerability, but because you want to show that you have a strong hand with heart shortage.

[mike777]

canaya14, on 2012-July-16, 12:20, said:

Well, for the record opener hand was
AJx
K
QJx
AKJxxx

He had a hard choice when deciding what to id for reopen, red against white, and choose to underbid (IMO)with 2 ♣.
After 2 ♥, 3 ♣, pass, pass 3 ♥, all passed, for 2 down opposed cold 6! Anyway i think ai cant go beyond 3 ♣ and it was my p responsability to went further after i showed some strength (with 3♣)

ya hard to swallow that pard passed your 3club bid with that hand, you might ask him why and what hand he played you for?

[Fluffy]

3♣ didn´t show strenght, 2♣ is ridicoulous, partner will wellcome 1♥ doubled being passed out, and he wants to rebid to show his strenght, not to mention that he wants to keep open spades and diamonds as possible strains. I think I´d bid 2♦ with your hand but not quite sure.

[Hanoi5]

I still think you should have bid 2♦, being non-forcing. I have to agree your partner underbid his hand though.