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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2012-December-01, 06:40

Red vs White, MP's:

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AKTxxxxx

(4)-???

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2012-December-01, 06:58

No, but many below the expert level can not resist.

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Posted 2012-December-01, 08:51

I would have no trouble bidding 5c if p were to
x 4h (using the theory that you dont pull the x
unless you expect to make your bid). The problem
with a direct 5c bid is that it creates a range of possible
hands (for a 5c bid) that is so huge that it is unplayable.

This is an especially bad idea when you are talking about
vul hands at the 5 level and up huge IMPS are involved
(lots of MP too).
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Posted 2012-December-01, 09:52

Somewhere I seem to remember hearing "never preempt over a preempt". :ph34r:
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Posted 2012-December-01, 09:54

Yes. Can't resist it.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2012-December-02, 13:05

I would too, there are no good rules for 8 card suits....
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Posted 2012-December-02, 21:24

Like the (East Coast) turnpike tool - an EZ Pass.
7 tricks (+ 1 from partner, perhaps) means we're over our head unless partner can take action. Let's wait and see...
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Posted 2012-December-06, 04:51

Can partner take action with AQT and 3 small clubs?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2012-December-06, 13:26

View Postrhm, on 2012-December-01, 06:58, said:

No, but many below the expert level can not resist.

Rainer Herrmann

Do you mean that no expert would bid?

I would definitely bid.

It's dangerous, but so too is passing, and a wise man once said that it's a bidder's game.

I won't insult you by suggesting various common layouts where passing is disastrous: you know them as well as I do, just as I know those where bidding leads to a terrible result. My take is that there are, slightly, more ways to win than to lose.
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Posted 2012-December-06, 15:23

Sure I'll bid, maybe they save in 5. GL me.
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Posted 2012-December-07, 02:59

View Postrhm, on 2012-December-01, 06:58, said:

No, but many below the expert level can not resist.

View Postmikeh, on 2012-December-06, 13:26, said:

I would definitely bid.

Wow, if Mike is a bidder then I would expect at least 90% of experts to follow suit. This suggests that more non-experts will probably pass here than experts!
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