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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:05



Do you take any action in first seat? It has good playing strength in this hand if a minor fit is found, and if you obey the Rule of 20,you need 1 opening,even if with 9hcp,really?
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Posted 2013-January-05, 20:10

6-5 come alive

Pass and hope to come in with 2N or bid 1, I'd likely bid but I've been accused of opening on thin air before.
btw I dislike the rule of 20.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 21:26

Pass.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 21:46

this hand i would pass but its mainly a matter of gross
diamonds even out the power btn the minors and i have little
trouble with a 1d opener.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 22:26

I'd open 1d at MP. This has to be better than 9 knr and we tend to open a lot of 11s anyway, and this might be my only chance to show 2 suits and not commit us to the 5 level.
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Posted 2013-January-05, 22:28

K&r 12.95 fwiw
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Posted 2013-January-05, 23:40

 wyman, on 2013-January-05, 22:28, said:

K&r 12.95 fwiw


Wyman.....????!!!!
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Posted 2013-January-06, 01:40

It meets rules of 20, but not rule of 22. I prefer the latter to the former, but either way these "rules" are aids to judgement only, not hard and fast requirements.

If I had an "unusual NT" kind of opener I'd do that, but I usually don't, so this is a pass for me.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 04:04

Pass, unless playing a 2 suited opening gadget.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 11:24

 Phil, on 2013-January-05, 23:40, said:

Wyman.....????!!!!


What'd I do? :)
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Posted 2013-January-06, 21:24

2
Then clubs the next chance I have. If they get high, then double by me will show another suit (for us). In case partner wants to defend.
Very much a matter of style, my partner and I strongly prefer to not pass with a hand this interesting. Of course we play the vanilla weak 2 in diamonds which many do not so that makes it easier.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 22:45

2 seems best, as long as an asking partner is prepared for a 4 rebid.
Would love to have a 5-8 HCP 2N minor suit 55 opening bid in my arsenal....

KS had it right years ago - opening minor suit hands at the 1 level needed extra strength or extra length. This hand has length but opponents likely have the major. Let's get in their way now.
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Posted 2013-January-07, 00:01

 SteveMoe, on 2013-January-06, 22:45, said:

Would love to have a 5-8 HCP 2N minor suit 55 opening bid in my arsenal....

I would hate that, as it would seem to be more of a misdescription than 1.

I think this hand is really tough BTW, I am still not convinced as to whether 1 or pass is better.
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