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#1 User is offline   bd71 

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Posted 2013-March-07, 13:21



Playing 2/1.

3C in a competitive auction like this was undiscussed with partner. Could have been interpreted as help-suit game try, since that is our agreement in non-competitive auctions.

Comments thus far? Your bid? Does your answer change based on teams vs. pairs?
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Posted 2013-March-07, 13:36

pass, we've said enough already.
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Posted 2013-March-07, 13:41

Pass at IMPs. Will consider 5♣ at matchpoints.
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Posted 2013-March-08, 04:10

silliness deleted.
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Posted 2013-March-08, 04:13

View PostCodo, on 2013-March-08, 04:10, said:

I would never pass, as long as 2 ♠ was a kind of a good Heart raise.

Have you misread the auction?
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Posted 2013-March-08, 04:29

View Postgordontd, on 2013-March-08, 04:13, said:

Have you misread the auction?


must have been drunk in the morning. TY
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Posted 2013-March-08, 05:32

View Postbillw55, on 2013-March-07, 13:41, said:

Will consider 5♣ at matchpoints.

More silliness? Partner has no clubs, and made the weakest heart support bid possible. I think -800 is not unlikely.
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Posted 2013-March-08, 05:49

Abstain: I'm not sure I want to be here at either form of scoring. In an uncontested auction, I like the help-suit game try. However, if we're defending a spade contract I really don't want partner leading from Ax in clubs; I don't want him leading a passive diamond in case they can pitch their one heart loser; I want him to lead a heart. I therefore wouldn't have bid 3♣.

My hand has negligible defensive values; even if partner has Kx/xxx/Axxx/xxxx (about as defensive as he could be for the bid, I think) they have some play for game. At IMPs, I'm inclined to pass 2♠ and let them make the last guess.

At MPs, I'd probably have bid 5♣ straight off. I think they're making 4♠, but no-one knows about 5♠. Give them no room to judge.
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Posted 2013-March-08, 06:24

We made an invitational bid, partner rejected, end of story.

Now if we though we had a game drive (close), a 4♣ bid the round before would have been informative. Nothing to regret, we decided t go with invitation, stick with it.
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Posted 2013-March-08, 07:06

View PostfromageGB, on 2013-March-08, 05:32, said:

More silliness? Partner has no clubs, and made the weakest heart support bid possible. I think -800 is not unlikely.

Wouldn't be my first time :P

But why do you think partner has no clubs?
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Posted 2013-March-08, 10:51

View Postbillw55, on 2013-March-08, 07:06, said:

Wouldn't be my first time :P

But why do you think partner has no clubs?

No, I am not saying he has no clubs. But you have no reason to suppose he has more clubs than spades! It's just not my style to sacrifice at the 5 level on a 5 card suit with no known fit. I would have more sympathy with a 5♥ sacrifice. Either might prove better than 4♠. But that game is not a certainty.
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