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Posted 2012-October-23, 02:07

这牌该怎么叫?哪里出了错?体系是哈代2/1.
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Posted 2012-October-23, 05:41

我的方法是反二盖一进局逼叫应叫法,2m应叫在应叫人有能力叫(包括阻击)3M开始;问叫pd有没有所叫花色的止张!

1S-2D4C,
4D-4S=

非常简单的逻辑:2D问有控制么?或者是D套;4D后回叫4S,表示的是D是弱套,后面再叫脑子就进水了!
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Posted 2012-October-23, 18:39

4都打不成的牌叫到6,有空门就胆子大了,这样叫牌和体系无关,只是和对牌的理解有关,南的
5太具鼓励性,有满贯兴趣大概也只能5邀请吧
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Posted 2012-October-23, 21:12

3是隐蔽的斯普林特,表示9+~12-HCP,四张将牌支持,有单缺。由于敌方的插叫,开叫方不能正常按哈代加叫进行(问单缺等)。但开叫方叫将牌花色到成局,从逻辑上理解,应该是无满贯兴趣。应叫方也是低限,应PASS。即使在应叫方叫出5(显然叫得过强),开叫方由于的弱点(没有控制),也应当选择叫5,而不是直接6。相比而言,应叫方的错误更大一些。
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Posted 2012-October-23, 22:41

如NS是临时pd,看起来,NS貌似除了1s,其他都是想当然之豪放叫牌? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:
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Posted 2012-October-23, 23:34

看来3是伯根加叫,表示4张支持的限制性加叫。如果CF华人论坛统一采用哈代加叫,觉得用隐藏的斯普林特:

1 - 3 (4C)
4 - AP
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Posted 2012-October-24, 00:11

嗯,看错了,3不是哈代加叫,应该是伯根加叫,那样的话,更不能到满贯了。
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Posted 2012-October-24, 04:24

这是一副开玩笑叫牌。1s已经把牌完全叫完了,12点均型,一点多余牌力也没有,除了被动答叫,不可能再做跳跃式叫牌,可以说4s都无权叫,已经处于自由状态了。一手差牌还有个ca,也能进6,把牌叫强了2个档次。
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Posted 2012-October-24, 20:21

对牌值的估算不能无限放大,打哈代2/1时3D的应叫已经是高估了牌值但也算可以接受吧,5C再叫又再次高估一手牌值。在敌方争叫4C后,开叫方似乎可以PASS表示低限牌力,让搭档决定最后是惩罚还是打4S定约。 :)
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Posted 2012-October-24, 22:45

哈代的3D不是逼局的限制性加叫吗?参照1H开叫。4S就表示没有兴趣。有兴趣会4D扣叫,不会4S。
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Posted 2012-October-24, 23:16

哈代的3是个空缺叫品。开叫1不能比照开叫1的加叫。
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Posted 2012-October-25, 00:23

 madongjun, on 2012-October-24, 23:16, said:

哈代的3是个空缺叫品。开叫1不能比照开叫1的加叫。

关于这个问题在讲课中已做了调整 :)
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Posted 2012-October-25, 00:25

 150655941, on 2012-October-24, 22:45, said:

哈代的3D不是逼局的限制性加叫吗?参照1H开叫。4S就表示没有兴趣。有兴趣会4D扣叫,不会4S。

3D不逼局,但面对搭档4张支持有单缺的限制性加叫,难道不该进取一些吗 :)
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Posted 2012-October-25, 04:32

北家4S叫不叫很难说。但5c过分是一定的。你的牌敌人4C已经帮你叫完了。PD只是4S而已。他不知道你C单缺?
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Posted 2012-October-25, 22:46

拍档双方都没有多余实力 仅仅因为控制好就非要向满贯发展是很不成熟的表现 :(
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Posted 2013-April-29, 23:06

总喜欢搞一些不中不洋的叫法如果规矩叫一声2h会有这种问题吗??任何体系规矩叫牌总不会错
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Posted 2013-April-30, 02:31

3是否可以有待商榷。
4、5、6都是严重无理的。
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Posted 2013-August-21, 03:43

 150655941, on 2012-October-23, 02:07, said:

这牌该怎么叫?哪里出了错?体系是哈代2/1.


这是早期的同学帖子。那么让我们再次回眸审视这牌如何处理吧。

1- 用哈代加叫叫3而非3
2-直接进局不是好的加叫。
3-如果采用fit-showing jump约定方式,再叫3表示5张+4张,建设性加叫。
4-应叫人再叫5排除性问叫,非常无理。
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Posted 2013-August-21, 18:52

其实,这副牌和“老版学牌之——关于一副畸形牌”的牌例很类似,都是将牌有4张支持,加一边花长套。我觉得这副牌也应该直接叫4S。南如果用bergen,叫3D也可。北叫4S也不算错,边缘局宁可冒一点。

南后来叫5C,就过于离谱。毕竟手上没有D控制,H需要支持(至少需要HK能飞成),S又缺乏大牌。叫5C,指望同伴张张大牌都有用?
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