mojila, on 2016-May-11, 04:58, said:
Those who say First bid shows only points are wrong. Opening bid is working points+Distribution
Showing only points and showing only Milton Work points are not necessarily the same thing. The opening shows only a measure of general strength without any indication as to shape. This is the point being made.
I am not sure where the reference to Big Bang comes in. As far as I remember that is a natural-ish 2/1 system with a few bels and whistles, not related to the Orient system at all. Modern systems tend to emphasise showing shape even where they use a strict strength division such as with Precision. The point here is that strength-showing calls tend to provide some purpose within the overall system to make the shape-showing more efficient, rather than the strength-showing being the primary purpose.
This is basically where Orient goes wrong and it makes for an inefficient and non-homogenous system. I agree that there is nothing wrong in trying to find a better system, I do this myself. I just do not believe that the Orient system is the right direction for making serious improvements on where bidding theory currently stands.