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a rare super acceptance. 2NT and super acceptance.

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Posted 2013-September-21, 20:45



Your style is to rarely superaccept (about 5% of the hands). Bidding a minor would suggest a doubleton and 4 trumps.
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Posted 2013-September-21, 21:34

View Postbenlessard, on 2013-September-21, 20:45, said:



Your style is to rarely superaccept (about 5% of the hands). Bidding a minor would suggest a doubleton and 4 trumps.

6: partner should be control rich to superaccept, so I'll shoot it out.
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Posted 2013-September-21, 21:43

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-September-21, 21:34, said:

6: partner should be control rich to superaccept, so I'll shoot it out.


I could get scientific and bid 5 but there is a lot of potential for the wrong lead to let us make it. ie off 2 fast hearts but unless they are both on lead....
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Posted 2013-September-22, 03:00

What's the difference between 3N and 4 ? and what would 4 have been ?
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Posted 2013-September-22, 09:23

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-September-22, 03:00, said:

What's the difference between 3N and 4 ? and what would 4 have been ?


Shouldn't 3N show a doubleton spade and 5 hearts so responder does not have to guess which major to look for when 5-3 in the majors?
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Posted 2013-September-22, 11:07

It was undiscussed but our style is to refuse the transfer = pretty good super acceptance not some random hands with 4 trumps.

4H doesnt exist since wronsiding can be awful here.
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Posted 2013-September-22, 11:16

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off 2 fast hearts but unless they are both on lead...


I think its just barely possible for opener to have 2 quick losers but its just so unlikely.

QJxx
Qxx
AQJ
AKQ

21 & 4 trumps but 10 pts in quacks Im not sure I would super accept with this.
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Posted 2013-September-22, 11:51

View Postbenlessard, on 2013-September-21, 20:45, said:

Bidding a minor would suggest a doubleton and 4 trumps.

Would that be any doubleton holding ... or a "worthless" doubleton ??
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Posted 2013-September-22, 14:54

View PostLorne50, on 2013-September-22, 09:23, said:

Shouldn't 3N show a doubleton spade and 5 hearts so responder does not have to guess which major to look for when 5-3 in the majors?


Only if you play your transfers so you can't play in 3, I'm quite happy to play 3 with 6 small and out.
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Posted 2013-September-22, 21:22

I could get scientific and bid 5 but there is a lot of potential for the wrong lead to let us make it. ie off 2 fast hearts but unless they are both on lead....

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Posted 2013-September-23, 10:20

my idea of a super accept might be a hand similar to

Qxxx Ax Ax AKQxx where I felt it was better to open 2n rather than
say 1c and reverse or jump shift into a ratty 4 card spade suit.
There could very easily be play for 7s on a hand like this so the
minimum we should do is bid 6s. IMO we should bid 4n (key card)
and let p know we have all the controls and trump Q and hopefully
they can bid 7s if they have a hand similar to the above and settle
for 6s with a more balanced yet control rich hand.
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Posted 2013-September-23, 12:03

View Postgszes, on 2013-September-23, 10:20, said:

my idea of a super accept might be a hand similar to

Qxxx Ax Ax AKQxx


where I felt it was better to open 2n rather than
say 1c and reverse or jump shift into a ratty 4 card spade suit.
There could very easily be play for 7s on a hand like this so the
minimum we should do is bid 6s. IMO we should bid 4n (key card)
and let p know we have all the controls and trump Q and hopefully
they can bid 7s if they have a hand similar to the above and settle
for 6s with a more balanced yet control rich hand.

I think there is an alternative method to show "source of tricks" ( in other words there are 2 ways to bid ,, or at the 4-level:

2NT - 3H!
??
4C/4D/4H = doubleton in bid suit

versus:
2NT - 3H!
3NT - 4C ( forced )
??
4D/4H = source of tricks in bid suit
4S = source of tricks in suit
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