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Posted 2013-November-25, 05:25

GOULASH实战记

BBO的GOULASH是个人赛,牌友是PICK-UP,默认的叫牌体系是SAYC。俱乐部是BBO-PL,老板是波兰人,不过裁判(TD)基本上是印度尼西亚人。

本人业余,玩得最多的就是这个比赛。原来打算写个帖子的,后来感到很难,搞不清楚这个坛子里的操作,没有继续,不好意思。
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Posted 2013-November-25, 05:37

我的牌库里有很多牌,暂时还没用搞懂怎么办。
http://club.kdnet.ne...2685&boardid=56
这个链接不知道是不是好用?
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Posted 2013-November-25, 06:21

Posted 2011-August-09, 13:20
I posted my system for goulash a while ago. It works quite well for me and I invite others to try it and see if it works for them.

So I'll copy my goulash strategy here for comments and critique.



A complicated bidding system, with lots of relays will not work in goulash in my opinion.

The opponents will have lots of opportunities and hands to pump up the biding to the 4 and 5 level so a strong club system will not work out well.

There are some basic rules of bidding and doubling that I subscribe to that I have found out work out well.

1. When you have an opening bid with points you open at the 1 level.

2. Assume that a 1 ♣ or 1 ♦ opening bid is a long suit and support with 3 cards, it will be over 95% of the time in my experience.

3. When you have a barrage type hand open up at the level indicated by your hand pattern, level 2, 3, 4, 5 or whatever.

4. You ALWAYS support your partners suit with 3 cards, ALWAYS means you never miss an opportunity to support partner. There is one exception to this, if your partner has bid game with barrage bid. Then you can support or not whether you judge if the ops have a game slam or not. You can support with different bids, simple raising, splinter, Ace asking, cue-bids, delayed support, weak jumps, whatever, don't worry if the level has reached the 5 level, support your partner.

5. Rule 4 is the reason for rule 1. Your partner with support must know what type of hand you have, an opener plus or a barrage hand.

6. Except with OBVIOUS sacrifice bids by opponents, do not double ops contract without,
a. SURE trump tricks, AK, KQ, QJ98, and so on
b. Aces or AK in SHORT suits of yours.
c. Do not double with Aces in long suits of yours, or with 4 or 5 trumps to 87532.
d. QJ's usually count for nothing on defense in goulash.

7. Even doubling obvious sacrifice bids with defensive tricks, expect to be unpleasantly surprised sometimes. One op will have a void in 1 suit and the other in the other suit. Cross-ruff time is upon you and they will probably make. B)

8. In bidding it is very useful to have some type of Ace asking system with voids.

I use a 3NT opener to ask for specific Aces, do not do this and do not play Exclusion blackwood without agreements. Also it is advisable to play DOPI or DIPO because many times ops will have the suits to interrupt your regular RKC responses.

9. If you are bidding with points in what seems to be a misfit auction, a 3NT bid should guarentee a solid suit to run for tricks, either you have one or you can fill out your partners suit. If you are counting on a suit with AQ108xx in a misfit auction, you are living in a pipe dream world.

10. Although it just seems common sense, I mention the following point because I have seen it many times, do not introduce new suits at the 3 level or above (unless it is a barrage opening) that do not have body to them without some type of escape.

To clarify, your partner opens 2 ♠ weak and you hold 976432, of ♥ with a singleton ♠, and scattered honors KQ in other suits, do not bid ♥. But you say I have a 6 card suit, if I have a fit... yes you do and if you get Xed I can tell you what the opening lead will be... 10 ♥ followed by the J and so on... you will probably take 2 or if you are lucky 3 tricks. Yes ops may have a slam on the hand, but who says they are going to bid it? Give your partners preempt a chance to work.

So when can you bid a suit of your own, well an example hand would be if opponent opened 1 ♦ partner over-called 2 ♣, followed by second op bidding 3 ♦, I would bid 3 ♥ on AQ10976 ♥, with 10xx ♣ support. Notice that the suit has body to it and if it gets doubled I have an escape, supporting my P's suit. Unless my partner has a good lead of his own, I would like a ♥ lead on defense, plus I want to explore a fit above ♦ on the bidding ladder if we have one.

11. If you are sure that you can control the bidding, bid slowly and forcing, DO NOT JUMP unless partner is likely or able to pass the bidding on his turn.

To give you an opportunity to show you what I mean, I recently held...

♠ AKQJ10976542 ♥ - ♦ Kx ♣ - ;) and my partner opened in first seat 1♣!!! :o

I bid 1 ♠, p bid 2 ♥ I bid 3 ♦ :o , Why you ask?

Because I wanted to see if partner could give delayed support to ♦. even 2 cards. If he supported ♠ I would have been shocked even in goulash. So how does that help you ask, well if he supports ♦, I can bid 5NT Grand slam force, this COMMANDS partner to bid 6 ♦ or 7 ♦ with 1 or 2 of the top honors in ♦.
With no top honors he bids 6 ♣, it also COMMANDS partner to pass whatever you rebid. No discussion or opinion from him is required on this particular hand. Even better partner bid 3 NT after 3 ♦, I now bid 6 ♠.

The entire bidding went 1 ♣ 1 ♠ 2 ♥ 3 ♦ 3 NT (X) 6 ♠ - P - P - X all pass.

Partner had the golden 8 ♠ and 2 Aces and 2 Kings so the contract was book on any lead, I made +1 on the ♥ lead. A cool 95% matchpoints.

I knew that even if partner had Jxx in ♦ I would almost assuredly have some kind of play on the lead, My one worry is that they would lead a trump. But I was going to 6 ♠ anyways, I controled the bidding to get information from partner, and the key point is I KNEW that I could control the bidding because I had the boss suit.

12. The example hand brings up rule 12. Never pass a command bid by partner and always assume he or she knows what they are doing. Even if p's bidding seems screwy, assume they know what they are doing. I can only imagine what my partner thought when I bid 6 ♠, especially after RHO Xed.

13. On defense this is in conjuction with rule 4. Do not double a slam after screwy bidding without SURE trump tricks. RHO obviously had ♣ 's to double 3 NT and as it turns out the A ♦. She should have realized that something strange was going on, and should not have Xed. If I am going down they will get a good score anyways.

By the way I might have bid the same way with 12 ♠'s and a singleton ♦, then I would have XX and they would have no place to run.

14. Learn to recognize "Key cards" that fit your partners hand.

For example. Your partner bids 1 ♥, ops bid ♠ then he bids 6 ♣

You have Q ♥ singleton and J1032 ♣. These are HUGE cards for your partner. You have to remember that he is bidding slam by himself without these cards. He is not worried about a ♠ or ♦ loser, bid 7 ♣ with these cards.

Same thing when partner bids 6 of a slam by himself, and you have a top honor in his suit A, K or Q bid the grand.

Just my thoughts,

Theo

http://www.bridgebas.../47111-goulash/

这个是老外的帖子,我先看看。然后再与实战做一对比。
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Posted 2013-November-25, 18:41

都是预设的怪牌呀。
并且还收1BBO元的报名费,没有打过。
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Posted 2013-November-26, 20:51

hand editor,用不了,晕
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Posted 2013-November-26, 20:59

NORTH
AK87632
AKJ

982

EAST
10

AKQJ1098654
J3

实战,北开叫1,东叫5,北再叫5,都PASS.
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Posted 2013-November-26, 21:14

NORTH
♠AK87632
♥AKJ

♣982
讨论:
实战中,我开叫1♠,东叫5♦,我再叫5♠,结果做成。有些人会开叫2,理由是九个赢墩;也有人会叫4——一般就是些NOVICE了。
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Posted 2013-November-26, 21:27

EAST
♠10

♦AKQJ1098654
♣J3
讨论:
设东家开叫,则2合法,如果是STAR,很有可能叫6。我也会叫6,因为如果是九张套,会开叫5,所以,10张套开叫6,理由充分。也有人会叫5.
实战中,另一桌争叫6,结果打6X,-1.
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Posted 2013-November-27, 01:12

在SPEEDBALL双人赛里,畸形牌可能占10%到20%,在免费的GOULASH里,畸形牌或许达到了90%。
在PPO-PL,我的感觉是畸形牌大约在70%-80%,没有具体统计过。
由于世界级(world class)是免费的,所以,有许多人参加比赛。因此,叫牌的潜规则就是由STAR和一班常客制定的——这是一个合理推断。
此外,STAR如果碰到超级傻叉,运气不好,THEY RUN AWAY,HEHE。所以,经常需要替补(SUB)。我也是通过做替补,才知道怎样玩GOULASH。
计算下来,到现在,一共得了260MP(大师分)。
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Posted 2013-November-27, 01:58

 163169, on 2013-November-27, 01:12, said:

由于世界级(world class)是免费的,所以,有许多人参加比赛。

这个世界级是自己定义,BBO就认可的那种吗?
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Posted 2013-November-27, 22:27

世界级的来龙去脉,本人并不清楚,似乎BBO老板要有个认证过程吧。碰到过几个中国的世界级,但是都不说自己是世界级或没有STAR符号。
BBO第一人Leo LaSoto,BBO大师分:11932,其中ACBL大师分:10877。
这位老兄就是实战打出来的,现在也是世界级(star)了。将要出战北京的还有L ROSE。
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  Posted 2013-November-27, 22:34



叫牌討論:
1、北家,开叫2D合法,或有叫3D者。
2、东家,无局时,可叫4H;有局时可开叫1H(7321,11点),实战开叫3H。
3、南家,一般开叫4S,也有人会开叫5S(这个有风险,拍档不一定搞得清楚)。

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Posted 2013-November-28, 00:29



讨论:
1、北家叫2 ,无局时可叫3
2、东家4,乃是个性,该人一贯无视潜规则,呵呵。但是也很难办,加倍不妥,叫2似乎不强,某些人会扣叫。当然,4是个错误的叫品,可能错失满贯。
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Posted 2013-November-28, 00:49



总算搞定了,O(∩_∩)O哈哈哈~

这副牌开叫6C,唯一的目的就是阻击,因为防守方不但梅花是空门,而且有黑桃套。
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Posted 2013-November-28, 01:01


叫牌讨论:
4NT开叫,SAYC,并无规定,一般为问A,也有人以为是表示双低套。有利有弊,4NT有阻击效用,但是容易出错。实际上,5应叫就是不知所云但不得不叫而已。实战是做成,应该注意南北家可以6牺牲,这也可能是不予开叫2的理由。我一般不会开叫4NT。

lycier,谢谢
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Posted 2013-November-29, 06:44

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Posted 2013-November-29, 06:52

 163169, on 2013-November-29, 06:44, said:



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Posted 2013-November-29, 06:54

刚打的,应该是6HX,他偏要叫7C, B-)
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