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Posted 2014-September-18, 17:15

I seem to remember there was such a system but I can't find it now, neither on BBF nor on Google. Am I misremembering something? I guess it was something like:

1C=16+
1D=exactly 4 spades (can be canape and I guess also balanced)
1H=4+ hearts (canape with a minor or 5H4m or one-suited or balanced)
1S=5+ spades
1NT=balanced, no 4-card major?
2C=one suiter
2D=one suiter

Am I making this up on the spot? Parts of it definitely, but does anyone remember this?
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Posted 2014-September-18, 17:35

There was at least one MOSCITO variant that looked similar

1C = Strong
1D = 4+ Spades
1H = 4+ Hearts
1S = unbalanced with 4+ diamonds
1N = 11+-14 balanced
2C = 6+ clubs
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Posted 2014-September-18, 18:46

View Postgwnn, on 2014-September-18, 17:15, said:

I seem to remember there was such a system but I can't find it now, neither on BBF nor on Google. Am I misremembering something? I guess it was something like:

1C=16+
1D=exactly 4 spades (can be canape and I guess also balanced)
1H=4+ hearts (canape with a minor or 5H4m or one-suited or balanced)
1S=5+ spades
1NT=balanced, no 4-card major?
2C=one suiter
2D=one suiter

Am I making this up on the spot? Parts of it definitely, but does anyone remember this?

My Spry looks somewhat like this, it was last used this year, not-vul only, by a Greek pair in Euro 2014

http://info.ecatsbri...riakopoulos.pdf
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Posted 2014-September-19, 01:17

I can certainly see how putting balanced hands in 1H can hurt but can't you put in 10-14 balanced with 4 spades in 1D?
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Posted 2014-September-19, 02:32

View Postgwnn, on 2014-September-18, 17:15, said:

I seem to remember there was such a system but I can't find it now, neither on BBF nor on Google. Am I misremembering something? I guess it was something like:

1C=16+
1D=exactly 4 spades (can be canape and I guess also balanced)
1H=4+ hearts (canape with a minor or 5H4m or one-suited or balanced)
1S=5+ spades
1NT=balanced, no 4-card major?
2C=one suiter
2D=one suiter

Am I making this up on the spot? Parts of it definitely, but does anyone remember this?


http://www.bridgebas...__1#entry177434

That's my system, Gemini. 1NT denied 4 spades but not 4 hearts, 1H was unbal (or perhaps 5332). Played it a few times, it was pretty effective at speedball! Didn't take it further, mainly because most of my potential partners didn't have any experience with strong club. Suspect it would be a good system to play in 1st [not unfav].
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Posted 2014-September-19, 07:45

Ah yes I think I saw both of these systems before, thanks! Do you have a follow up system available somewhere MickyB? (I found glen's Spry already of course.) Thanks!
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Posted 2014-September-19, 09:33

View Postgwnn, on 2014-September-19, 07:45, said:

Ah yes I think I saw both of these systems before, thanks! Do you have a follow up system available somewhere MickyB? (I found glen's Spry already of course.) Thanks!


Will try to dig it out of my hotmail account when I have the time. I think that, over 1D, one of 1M showed hearts, the other was ART INV [important given the wide-ranging balanced option that I was putting through it]. 1N:2C was asking for four hearts with 1N:2C, 2D:2M showing a 5-card invite.
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Posted 2014-October-15, 15:38

View Postgwnn, on 2014-September-18, 17:15, said:

I seem to remember there was such a system but I can't find it now, neither on BBF nor on Google. Am I misremembering something? I guess it was something like:

1C=16+
1D=exactly 4 spades (can be canape and I guess also balanced)
1H=4+ hearts (canape with a minor or 5H4m or one-suited or balanced)
1S=5+ spades
1NT=balanced, no 4-card major?
2C=one suiter
2D=one suiter

Am I making this up on the spot? Parts of it definitely, but does anyone remember this?


I believe I posted a similar system design on rec.games.bridge probably 2-3 years ago. Played it in MP for 6 months but was tired of prealerting and explaining the artificial 1D.

1C = 15+
1D = 12-14 4s with canape [or 6+s]
1H = 10-14 4h with canape [or 6+h]
1S = 8-11 4s with canape [unbalanced only]
1N = 10-14 no 4M [could have 5M332]
2C = 10-14 4+c [canape into longer suit] or 6+c
2D = 10-14 4+d [canape inot longer suit]
2M = weak
2N = 10-14 minors

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