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1♠ did not promise an unbalanced hand.
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And the beat goes on. Or.. does it?
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Posted 2014-November-16, 16:54
IMPs.
1♠ did not promise an unbalanced hand.
What now?
1♠ did not promise an unbalanced hand.
What now?
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Posted 2014-November-16, 18:03
3♣, a fragment bid. It's minimum for that, but "if the minimum weren't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum". 
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Posted 2014-November-16, 21:24
2c
agree I got a minimum
these hand types are tough to bid
don't get jump to 3c.
agree I got a minimum
these hand types are tough to bid
don't get jump to 3c.
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Posted 2014-November-17, 01:01
blackshoe, on 2014-November-16, 18:03, said:
3♣, a fragment bid. It's minimum for that, but "if the minimum weren't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum".
What is wrong with 2♣ if you really want to make another move for a non vulnerable game?
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Posted 2014-November-17, 01:07
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2014-November-19, 03:41
Full hand:
In this case both 2/3♣ clubs get you to 3NT, but honestly I think if you're going to bid, 2♣ is probably the best bid. It definitely must an invitational bid (else pass 1NT) and even if pard passes with 4 clubs, it must have a play for. In this case it will meet with a likely 3♦/3NT from South, reaching a good game.
3♣ will be an overbid if pard has like 6-7 and 2NT may also get you too high.
In this case both 2/3♣ clubs get you to 3NT, but honestly I think if you're going to bid, 2♣ is probably the best bid. It definitely must an invitational bid (else pass 1NT) and even if pard passes with 4 clubs, it must have a play for. In this case it will meet with a likely 3♦/3NT from South, reaching a good game.
3♣ will be an overbid if pard has like 6-7 and 2NT may also get you too high.
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Posted 2014-November-19, 17:51
I think partner's second call should be 2NT to make it easier for us to PASS with this hand. However, because my partners are never this considerate, I like 2♣s as most likely to get us to the right spot when partner has 6-7 HCP. Give partner 96xx in ♥s and on this hand I hope they prefer ♦s but that may be a bit much to ask. The 4-3 fit shouldn't play too poorly anyway. We should be able to scramble 8 tricks in ♣s.
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Posted 2014-December-01, 22:14
I think I would bid 2♣ rather than pass vulnerable, but the bonus at IMPs for the non-vulnerable game is not enough to sway me from the ultra-safe 1 NT, which I hope to score an IMP or 2 because it will be a high-scoring partial.
I disagree that partner should have bid 2 NT on his flat 10 hcp. With most 15 hcp hands I would be balanced or semi-balanced enough to open 1NT, so to continually risk playing in 2NT opposite borderline openers for the chance I might hold such a strong hand is anti-percentage.
I disagree that partner should have bid 2 NT on his flat 10 hcp. With most 15 hcp hands I would be balanced or semi-balanced enough to open 1NT, so to continually risk playing in 2NT opposite borderline openers for the chance I might hold such a strong hand is anti-percentage.
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