[billw55]

 mike777, on 2015-June-02, 12:22, said:

ONe report said over 1000 killed in building of CUP games in Qutar ..if true it seems not many really care that much.

The slave labor and associated mass murder (I will not call them simply deaths) in Qatar are by far the greatest stain on FIFA. I have seen projections, based on current total victims and state of completion of the stadia, of 4-5000 total murders by end of project. The scope of the slaughter is deeply horrible; the Qatari lords in charge have claimed their place among the truly evil.

[mike777]

 billw55, on 2015-June-02, 12:54, said:

The slave labor and associated mass murder (I will not call them simply deaths) in Qatar are by far the greatest stain on FIFA. I have seen projections, based on current total victims and state of completion of the stadia, of 4-5000 total murders by end of project. The scope of the slaughter is deeply horrible; the Qatari lords in charge have claimed their place among the truly evil.

Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff.



As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup

[PhilKing]

 mike777, on 2015-June-02, 13:16, said:

Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff.



As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup

Well I know at least one country that did ...

[mike777]

 PhilKing, on 2015-June-02, 15:17, said:

Well I know at least one country that did ...

Really ok. WHO?

I have not heard of one single country call for the cup to be cancelled.

I have heard of many rumors to move the cup.

[jjbrr]

 mike777, on 2015-June-02, 13:16, said:

Well if true I can say America is truly ignorant of the reports I doubt one in ten or twenty know this stuff.



As for the rest of the world...shame they do not demand the cancellation of the world cup

cancellation of the world cup? mike, please try to keep up. several candidate hosts have been listed already in this thread. it would be truly idiotic to cancel a world cup that is three years out.

[mike777]

 jjbrr, on 2015-June-02, 20:26, said:

cancellation of the world cup? mike, please try to keep up. several candidate hosts have been listed already in this thread. it would be truly idiotic to cancel a world cup that is three years out.

not idiotic...the very best thing to do...
I have listed reasons why.

You have listed zero reasons better to continue. IN fact your only reason is too attack as "idiotic"

You have addressed zero of my points to cancel that I have discussed in this thread.


the fact fans will not even consider doing right..

fans are willing to put up with anything even this massive corruption on a grand scale, and if the reports are true thousands are killed.

Your response...don't cancel the cup. As I predicted this will be the response.

[jjbrr]

sigh

[Aberlour10]

I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate, and half empty or empty stadiums we would see in this country with any tradition in soccer.

[cherdano]

 Aberlour10, on 2015-June-03, 02:44, said:

I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate,

I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly?

[Aberlour10]

 cherdano, on 2015-June-03, 02:46, said:

I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly?

oups my english is still so poor as the transparency of the FIFA heh

moved to the other place, right?

[Trinidad]

 cherdano, on 2015-June-03, 02:46, said:

 Aberlour10, on 2015-June-03, 02:44, said:

I am pretty sure this WC will be replaced...and not due to the corruption but the climate,

I agree the watercooler has been going downhill, and the climate change thread is ridiculous - but replace it? With what, exactly?

Perhaps you care to address the corruption in the water cooler?



Rik

[PassedOut]

Interesting background story in the Post: How a curmudgeonly old reporter exposed the FIFA scandal that toppled Sepp Blatter

Quote

Foul!” earned Jennings a following, including admirers within law enforcement. In 2009, he got a call from an “ex-spook” who wanted to introduce Jennings to a few people.

“I go down to London to this anonymous office block, and you go in and there are three men with American accents,” Jennings remembers. “They’ve got government-style haircuts. They introduce themselves as FBI special agents and give me their business cards, which say ‘organized crime squad.'”

“Bliss,” Jennings remembered thinking. “The European police forces will do nothing [about FIFA] so it was damn good to see professional investigators get involved.”

Jennings was eager to help, and after making a few phone calls to sources in the Americas, he sent confidential Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football (CONCACAF) financial reports to the FBI and the IRS. They showed mysterious, multi-million-dollar “commissions,” Jennings claimed.

“I said, ‘Right, let’s just level the playing field a bit,'” he said. “And I gave them the documents that really got this going.”

Jennings trusted the FBI, rather than his fellow reporters, “to look at an organization like FIFA and know what crooks they are,” he said. For six years, he’s used his sources to stay abreast of the investigation. Jennings said he knew that a grand jury had met in the past year to consider bringing charges, but didn’t know who would be charged, or when.

I guess John Oliver will be drinking a Bud Light Lime. (Yuck...)

[blackshoe]

 PassedOut, on 2015-June-03, 07:43, said:

I guess John Oliver will be drinking a Bud Light Lime. (Yuck...)

Yes, but what will he drink if he wants a beer?

[MrAce]

 blackshoe, on 2015-June-03, 11:38, said:

Yes, but what will he drink if he wants a beer?

Budweiser! (not the light or lime) The best beer in the world that goes well with Jameson - Jack - Fireball shots!

This ain't wine! The best BEER = the beer that allows you to drink max amount for any budget!
See what happens in Europe in soccer games...Bad beer causes frustration and people kill each other. Which won't happen in Budweiser selling NFL games.

[1eyedjack]

Budweiser in one country is a completely different drink than Budweiser in another.

[blackshoe]

Years ago, I was watching a football game with some friends, one of whom was Australian. This commercial for Foster's Lager came on. The last line was some Aussie holding up a can and saying "Fosters! It's Australian for beer!" My friend countered "Nonsense! 'Foster's' is Australian for 'Budweiser'!"

[mycroft]

There's nothing wrong with Budweiser that couldn't be fixed by selling it before they feed it to the clydesdales...

[Cyberyeti]

The only good Budweiser comes from Budweis (České Budějovice as it is now) the Czech stuff.

A friend when he orders Fosters at a local where he's known usually asks for a pint of kangaroo piss.

IMO the best beers are either English bitters and other types or continental dark beers, my absolute favourite is http://belgium.beert.../kasteel-donker which is not for the faint hearted.

[mikeh]

 Trinidad, on 2015-June-03, 03:31, said:

Perhaps you care to address the corruption in the water cooler?



Rik

Hey! Feel free to bribe me! (problem: how to send/receive brown money-stuffed envelopes by email)

[jjbrr]

lol@this derail, but beer snobbery with regards to budweiser is always amazing to me, and its the clearest indicator that the budtagonist is ignorant of beer. bud unabashedly appeals to the lowest common denominator and tries to cater to the largest, most accessible audience. their beer can't have strong flavors, because strong flavors alienate customers they're hoping to attract.

ok, so you're not the lowest common denominator. great! you probably have an idea of what you enjoy in a beer. please just order that instead and keep your preferences to yourself. no one cares if you prefer saisons or porters or lambics or heineken or kingfisher or miller or can i stop now?