Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?
#22061
Posted 2024-November-04, 16:16
"Taking a bullet" means deliberately putting yourself in danger to protect someone else. It's what Secret Service agents do when they interpose themselves between a shooter and the President. It's what the DC Police officers did when they were trying to protect the Capitol from the Jan 6 rioters. Soldiers do it to protect their brothers in arms.
Trump didn't do anything heroic when he was the target of an assassination, unless you think just appearing in public is inherently risky. And since then, they've been putting him behind bulletproof glass in many of his rallies, so he's not really willing to risk his life.
And if God was really protecting him, why was there a shooter in the first place? I love the twisted logic of religious people when they justify things like this.
#22063
Posted 2024-November-05, 03:46
#22064
Posted 2024-November-05, 06:12
Cyberyeti, on 2024-November-05, 03:46, said:
Reform UK, Nigel Farage's party, received 1 in 7 votes cast in the recent UK general elections.
Farage projects himself to be a quasi-Trump, he even spoke at Trump rallies in past US elections. I wouldn't be surprised if most of his voters also feature in the "I'd vote for Trump if I could" group.
#22065
Posted 2024-November-05, 07:35
i m kookie, on 2024-November-04, 19:01, said:
Does anyone actually understand the weird objection to have tampon's in the men's room?
I understand that there's a bunch of ignorant bigots who get their panties in a twist over these sorts of issues, however, if you're talking to normal folks and not idiots, what's the issue?
I can think of plenty of times when a trip to the grocery store has involved my needing to buy tampons for a female friend.
Back when I was in junior high school or high school, a request from one of my friends to grab her a tampon would have probably been a bit awkward, but I think that society has a whole (and particular the younger portions of out society) have evolved significantly.
#22066
Posted 2024-November-05, 08:59
hrothgar, on 2024-November-05, 07:35, said:
I understand that there's a bunch of ignorant bigots who get their panties in a twist over these sorts of issues, however, if you're talking to normal folks and not idiots, what's the issue?
I can think of plenty of times when a trip to the grocery store has involved my needing to buy tampons for a female friend.
Back when I was in junior high school or high school, a request from one of my friends to grab her a tampon would have probably been a bit awkward, but I think that society has a whole (and particular the younger portions of out society) have evolved significantly.
I finished high school in 1956. I am pretty sure that if a female classmate had asked me to go into a store and buy a tampon for her I would have said "What's a tampon?". And of course she would not have asked back then. You are right, the world has changed. I am not at all sure that the girl's restrooms dispensed tampons back then.
I just checked with Becky about high school bathrooms when she was young. No tampons, no pads, you had to be prepared. So she recalls. Perhaps the nurse could help in an emergency. The world has definitiely changed. And some changes are actualy improvements.
#22067
Posted 2024-November-05, 11:03
hrothgar, on 2024-November-05, 07:35, said:
I understand that there's a bunch of ignorant bigots who get their panties in a twist over these sorts of issues, however, if you're talking to normal folks and not idiots, what's the issue?
I can think of plenty of times when a trip to the grocery store has involved my needing to buy tampons for a female friend.
Back when I was in junior high school or high school, a request from one of my friends to grab her a tampon would have probably been a bit awkward, but I think that society has a whole (and particular the younger portions of out society) have evolved significantly.
As with virtually everything on the new conservative scale, the bottom line is their religion-based morality and the taboos associated with it.
#22068
Posted 2024-November-05, 16:34
Cyberyeti, on 2024-November-05, 03:46, said:
There was probably some doubt among low information voters whether Convicted Felon Trump was a rabid racist, white supremacist, and fascist when he ran in 2016. That question has been fully resolved for even the low information voters.
#22069
Posted 2024-November-05, 18:14
Apparently going back to how all this started Nate plumped for 50:50
#22071
Posted 2024-November-05, 21:54
I am so hoping that this is a red mirage, but tonight is feeling way too much like 2016. And if Trump wins, this is going to e so much worse than 2016.
What hurts most is that I was feeling good about things up until 8:00 or so...
#22072
Posted 2024-November-06, 03:42
One of the many ways that economists (in this case I am looking at statistics from the Federal Reserve) study the labor market is by dividing jobs into cognitive or non-cognitive (whether you work with your head or your hands) and routine or non-routine (whether you do a few tasks you have presumably been trained in over and over or whether you keep having to figure out how to do your job).
For the last forty years, even as the working-age population has grown, almost all the growth in the labor market has been in cognitive, non-routine jobs, and most of the rest has been in non-cognitive, non-routine jobs. The only segment that has seen significant wage growth (presumably because it is the only segment that doesn't have more available workers than jobs) is cognitive, non-routine jobs. (I'm interpreting publicly available Federal Reserve data here, if you want to poke around and look it up.)
Since this is a bridge forum, now let me tell you about a hand from tonight at the club. I'm declarer sitting North. You are on lead - 3C was a Bergen raise showing 4 card heart support and about 7-9 points:
The woman on lead did what the beginner's books say; she lead her partner's suit. South did not have a spade control, but I ruffed the opening diamond, pitched all but one of dummy's spades on my clubs, and made. The post-mortem went something like this:
Her: I guess I should have lead a spade.
Me and her partner: The auction did tell you that was the suit where declarer might have a problem.
Her: I guess it did, but I couldn't take that all in, so I just lead what partner's bidding told me to.
She does have something like 1500 masterpoints, earned in an area without large clubs, and while mikeh would respectfully consider her incompetent, she is about average for 1500 masterpoints and hence better than 80-85% of bridge players. I also want to point out that she has all the knowledge to make the right lead; she just can't process all that knowledge at the table.
Now, I don't really know her outside of bridge, so I have no idea what she's capable of, but if this is someone's general level of thinking and decision-making ability, are they going to be able to hold down any cognitive, non-routine job? And - judging by the usual standard of club bridge - frequently with many very experienced players - most bridge players are not any more capable, and I see no reason why most non-bridge players are more capable; if anything on average I would expect them to be less capable (since bridge players choose to play bridge).
I don't see how our society can continue to avoid revolution without creating large numbers of routine jobs.
Why does Trump get so many votes? Because all the people competing for the remaining routine jobs are tired of having no future as the jobs they can do become fewer and fewer and pay (relatively) less and less, even as the economy grows for the benefit of all the smarties.
At the same time, automation and now AI/ML makes many routine jobs, if not yet obsolete, then obsolete pending availability of sufficient capital to create the necessary automated machinery.
That's why I think we're doomed.
#22073
Posted 2024-November-06, 05:18
The following piece by David Rothkopf is far better than anything I could write:
https://davidrothkop...edRedirect=true
#22074
Posted 2024-November-06, 06:12
hrothgar, on 2024-November-03, 07:10, said:
There is much to much of chance that he will win Pennsylvania...
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This best illustrates that you guys here have zero idea what you are talking about.
That was quite a spanking you got yesterday.
See you again in 4 years
PS: Oh, I forgot there will be no elections in 4 years as DJT will name himself president for life (this is what you were brainwashed to believe , isn't it?)
Before internet age you had a suspicion there are lots of "not-so-smart" people on the planet. Now you even know their names.
#22075
Posted 2024-November-06, 06:19
hrothgar, on 2024-November-03, 07:10, said:
Trump won Anson county , where half of voters are african american.
As I said , zero idea ....
Before internet age you had a suspicion there are lots of "not-so-smart" people on the planet. Now you even know their names.
#22076
Posted 2024-November-06, 08:42
andrei, on 2024-November-06, 06:12, said:
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This best illustrates that you guys here have zero idea what you are talking about.
That was quite a spanking you got yesterday.
See you again in 4 years
Hopefully Biden hands Ukraine some nukes on his way out the door and we never need to hear from you again
#22077
Posted 2024-November-06, 09:24
What can I say? I do not thiink of myself, my family, my friends as extreme lefties but I worry. I have expressed disagreement with some Democratic ideas, but I like to think that the USA has more in common with France, Norway and the UK than it does with Russia. I prefer NATO to Putin.
This is not the path I hoped for, we shall see how it goes. We won't be moving anywhere.
#22078
Posted 2024-November-06, 10:39
This time, Trump is on course to win 5 million more votes than Kamala Harris. This is not a victory with a narrow margin, this is a demolition.
Don't blame the voters, blame your party that couldn't convince your voters. This is despite having more resources at their disposal (Dems raised 2.2 times the $$s vs. GOP)
#22079
Posted 2024-November-06, 10:46
shyams, on 2024-November-06, 10:39, said:
Don't blame the voters, blame your party that couldn't convince your voters.
Trump was drooling on stage and pretending to give blow jobs to a microphone.
I don't think that issue involved not being able to convince voters.
I think that its fragmented media environments.
Perhaps the Democrats need to go down the same path as the Republics
Create our own propaganda arm, invent an enemy, and subject the country to a daily hate for the next four years...
Because that sure seems to be what works in this day and age, especially when you need to whip up enthusiasm in a bunch of mouth breathing idiots...
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