BBO Discussion Forums: Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 1107 Pages +
  • « First
  • 623
  • 624
  • 625
  • 626
  • 627
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#12481 User is offline   barmar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 21,591
  • Joined: 2004-August-21
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-03, 09:32

 kenberg, on 2019-April-01, 20:25, said:

I don't know if I can clearly explain how offensive I find this.I imagine myself as one of the invited felons. Of course I am glad that I have not been forgotten and maybe I can have a future outside of prison. But I am also sure I would realize that I am being used as a political prop. I find this repulsive.

Isn't that true of most non-politicians invited to the WH? Is there any government purpose to hosting the winners of a big sports event? When signing a major bill, it's quite common to surround POTUS with people related to the issue.

These kinds things are always just for show.

#12482 User is online   kenberg 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,223
  • Joined: 2004-September-22
  • Location:Northern Maryland

Posted 2019-April-03, 11:15

 barmar, on 2019-April-03, 09:32, said:

Isn't that true of most non-politicians invited to the WH? Is there any government purpose to hosting the winners of a big sports event? When signing a major bill, it's quite common to surround POTUS with people related to the issue.

These kinds things are always just for show.


I have thought a little since I posted it. The post was impulsive after an immediate reaction. If some person or some group has accomplished something, I am fine with a WH awards ceremony. It might be an act of bravery, it might be musical achievement, or scientific achievement, it might be any of a lot of things. The president may get some rub-off from this, but clearly the person being admired is the awardee. This dinner for felons is different. There is no mistaking the intent. "I, your president, am doing a great thing and I have brought these people here to show you what a great thing it is that I am actually doing". Yuk and double yuk.I have never much liked being singled out, even if it is for favorable attention, but if I were, say, a low level drug dealer and the president brought me to the WH so he could show what a great guy he is for helping low level drug dealers I can imagine spitting on the rug. At least.
Ken
0

#12483 User is offline   Winstonm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,284
  • Joined: 2005-January-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
  • Interests:Art, music

Posted 2019-April-03, 12:15

 kenberg, on 2019-April-03, 11:15, said:

I have thought a little since I posted it. The post was impulsive after an immediate reaction. If some person or some group has .... if I were, say, a low level drug dealer and the president brought me to the WH so he could show what a great guy he is for helping low level drug dealers I can imagine spitting on the rug. At least.


Better yet, apply for a cabinet position.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
0

#12484 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-03, 16:10

 kenberg, on 2019-April-01, 20:25, said:

NYT reported this today

I don't know if I can clearly explain how offensive I find this.I imagine myself as one of the invited felons. Of course I am glad that I have not been forgotten and maybe I can have a future outside of prison. But I am also sure I would realize that I am being used as a political prop. I find this repulsive.


Of course, there was this high profile prop

Rashida Tlaib berates Mark Meadows for using black woman as ‘a prop’ at hearing

Quote

During the long-anticipated House Oversight Committee hearing with Michael Cohen, the former personal lawyer to Trump accused the president of making racist comments about African Americans. In turn, Meadows asked Housing and Urban Development staffer Lynne Patton, who is black, to silently stand before the committee to disprove that Trump is racist.


According to Meadows (R-N.C.), Patton had said there was "no way that she would work for an individual who was racist."


LOL, tell that to Omarosa Manigault Newman :lol:
0

#12485 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-03, 17:36

Is Dennison letting foreign spies steal classified and top secret information?

Why Mar-a-Lago is vulnerable to foreign espionage, according to ex-spies

I don't think this includes Russian spies who just ask Putin to get the information from Dennison firsthand.

I don't know why China is working so hard to infiltrate Dennison's operation. If they offered to build the world's most expensive, tallest and largest hotel in the world. I'm sure Dennison would make sure they got value for their investment.
0

#12486 User is offline   hrothgar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,488
  • Joined: 2003-February-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Natick, MA
  • Interests:Travel
    Cooking
    Brewing
    Hiking

Posted 2019-April-03, 17:40

 rmnka447, on 2019-March-30, 19:52, said:


If you want to claim that Barr is misleading the public with his summation, go ahead. Barr impresses me as a very straight shooter who wouldn't tarnish his already illustrious reputation by trying to hoodwink the public about what Mueller came up with when that information will eventually become public.


Front page of the NYT

Quote

Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations.


https://www.nytimes....dings-barr.html
Alderaan delenda est
0

#12487 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-03, 18:01

Some on Mueller’s Team See Their Findings as More Damaging for Trump Than Barr Revealed

Quote

Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations.


Hmmm, political hack Barr, who got his job by writing an uninformed and unsolicited 19 page memo ripping the Mueller probe, and then basically refused to answer any pertinent questions during his confirmation hearings, deliberately wrote a misleading letter summarizing the Mueller summary? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I have to tell everybody in this forum that I am shocked to hear this B-)
0

#12488 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-03, 18:11

More questions about the mental health of Dennison

Tim Apple. Oranges. German Dad. Mental Health Experts Warn That Trump Is Losing It.

Quote

“The ‘Tim Apple’ episode a few weeks ago, his calling Venezuela a company, and then yesterday, confusing his grandfather’s birthplace with his father’s, mispronouncing ‘oranges’ for ‘origins,’ and stating out of the blue, ‘I’m very normal,’” recited Bandy Lee, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University who has been waving red flags about Trump’s mental state for years. “There is no question he needs an examination.”

“I think he’s suffering from pre-dementia. And it’s only getting worse,” said John Gartner, a clinical psychologist with practices in New York City and Baltimore.


Problems with apples, oranges, etc. A lot of people think Dennison is bananas.
1

#12489 User is offline   barmar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 21,591
  • Joined: 2004-August-21
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-04, 09:56

 kenberg, on 2019-April-03, 11:15, said:

I have thought a little since I posted it. The post was impulsive after an immediate reaction. If some person or some group has accomplished something, I am fine with a WH awards ceremony. It might be an act of bravery, it might be musical achievement, or scientific achievement, it might be any of a lot of things. The president may get some rub-off from this, but clearly the person being admired is the awardee. This dinner for felons is different. There is no mistaking the intent. "I, your president, am doing a great thing and I have brought these people here to show you what a great thing it is that I am actually doing". Yuk and double yuk.I have never much liked being singled out, even if it is for favorable attention, but if I were, say, a low level drug dealer and the president brought me to the WH so he could show what a great guy he is for helping low level drug dealers I can imagine spitting on the rug. At least.

You're right, it was unfair to lump together honoring accomplished people with showing off beneficiaries of legislation. But both are common political tactics. People react most to visible actions, Jerry Lewis's telethons wouldn't have raised nearly as much money if he didn't put the afflicted children on the screen. And talking about rehabilitating felons is not as effective as showing off the felons who will benefit.

#12490 User is offline   awm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,375
  • Joined: 2005-February-09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Zurich, Switzerland

Posted 2019-April-04, 12:21

It’s often bothered me the way politicians do this dog and pony show where they talk about individual people and then have a few beneficiaries of whatever program in th audience. Certainly I feel like statistics would be more convincing — pass gun laws because thousands of children die from guns every year in the US, not because Bob and Mary Smith lost their son to a shooter in Bumbleville Oregon...

But both parties do this, and apparently it works to “personalize” the issues for voters who are perhaps less mathematically inclined. I’ve mostly learned to ignore it.
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
1

#12491 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-05, 02:45

Tough guy Dennison fights with another dead person:

'Look what I did to her sons.' Trump fires back at Barbara Bush remarks in new biography

Quote

“I have heard that she was nasty to me, but she should be," the president told The Washington Times in an interview published on Thursday. "Look what I did to her sons.”


There was no reply from Barbara Bush :rolleyes:

No wonder Republicans are so proud of their Manchurian Puppet.
0

#12492 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-05, 03:20

O'Rourke compares Trump's immigrant rhetoric to Third Reich

Quote

At a town hall in Iowa on Thursday, O'Rourke called out "the rhetoric of a president who not only describes immigrants as rapists and criminals but as animals and an infestation," in response to a question on how he would address attacks from Republicans.

The former congressman from Texas says, "Now, I might expect someone to describe another human being as an infestation in the Third Reich. I would not expect that in the United States of America."


It has not been confirmed that the American Nazi Party has disavowed Dennison for his over the top hate speech. B-)
0

#12493 User is offline   Winstonm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,284
  • Joined: 2005-January-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
  • Interests:Art, music

Posted 2019-April-05, 05:34

 johnu, on 2019-April-05, 02:45, said:



Sounds like a song:

Look what I've done to your sons, Ma
Look what I've done to your sons, Ma
If you'd had moons, instead of sons,
it wouldn't have been so wrong, Ma
Look what I've done to your sons
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
0

#12494 User is offline   Winstonm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,284
  • Joined: 2005-January-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
  • Interests:Art, music

Posted 2019-April-05, 06:07

Individual-1 is threatening that in a year, to fight drug smuggling, he will place tariffs on Mexican automobiles. That is a shame, as I really had my heart set on a 2020 Avacado from Mexico.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
0

#12495 User is offline   y66 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,496
  • Joined: 2006-February-24

Posted 2019-April-05, 06:13

Bad news from the cheese head state and David Leonhardt at NYT:

Quote

Democrats received doubly bad news in a Wisconsin Supreme Court election this week.

Brian Hagedorn, a conservative judge who also worked for former Gov. Scott Walker, seems to have beaten the liberal candidate, Lisa Neubauer. The margin — 0.5 percentage points, or about 6,000 votes — is narrow enough that Neubauer is requesting a recount. But a 6,000-vote lead rarely disappears in a recount.

The first problem for Democrats is what Hagedorn’s win will mean for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. He will have flipped a seat previously held by a liberal, giving conservatives a five-to-two majority. Only one seat is up for election next year. (Judicial elections are officially nonpartisan in Wisconsin, but effectively become left-vs.-right races.)

So even if conservatives lose a seat next year, they will keep their majority for the redistricting process after the 2020 census. That process draws boundaries for both congressional and state-legislature districts, which means it will play a big role in shaping future Wisconsin politics.

Hagedorn’s apparent win, as the Daily Kos Elections newsletter explains, “almost certainly means the Wisconsin Supreme Court won’t act as a check on the extreme gerrymanders that Republicans have perpetrated for years.” (My colleague Emily Bazelon wrote about the ridiculousness of Wisconsin gerrymandering in a 2017 Times Magazine piece.)

The second bit of bad news for Democrats was the outcome’s political signal.

Wisconsin Supreme Court races are statewide, and Hagedorn’s win suggests that Wisconsin remains up for grabs heading into President Trump’s re-election campaign. Republican voters now seem quite energized, and turnout was high in conservative areas, like Waukesha County, just west of Milwaukee. “The GOP’s win in Wisconsin Supreme Court race showed a base that’s waking up,” Reid Wilson of The Hill noted.

Conservative writers were celebrating the victory.

In The Washington Post, Henry Olsen wrote: “Simply put, if Trump wins Wisconsin, he is almost certain to win re-election. That’s because a win for Trump in Wisconsin would likely mean victories for him in swing states that he carried that are more Republican than Wisconsin — such as Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and Iowa.”

The Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote: “The left’s un­expected de­feat in the high-stakes and rel­a­tively high-turnout elec­tion is a no­table turn from the last two years in the bellwether state … Perhaps the emerging radicalism on the left is causing voters to think twice about returning them to power.”

There are still reasons to consider Trump an underdog in Wisconsin next year. His approval rating there is only slightly above 40 percent, according to Morning Consult. And as Craig Gilbert of The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel noted, turnout in Milwaukee, which is strongly Democratic, often slips in off-year elections like this one.

But Democrats would be mistaken to dismiss the Wisconsin result. Their big wins in last year’s midterms were foreshadowed by wins in state and local races in 2017 and early 2018, and there weren’t many downside surprises like Hagedorn’s victory.

It’s a reminder, says Amy Walter of The Cook Political Report, that Wisconsin is the “top battleground state in 2020.”

If you lose all hope, you can always find it again -- Richard Ford in The Sportswriter
0

#12496 User is offline   Winstonm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,284
  • Joined: 2005-January-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
  • Interests:Art, music

Posted 2019-April-05, 08:22

We will now get to see with whom lies the interests of Individual-1, the U.S. or others.

Quote

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Saudi Arabia detained eight people, including two dual U.S.-Saudi citizens, in a new round of arrests in the kingdom targeting individuals supportive of women’s rights and those with ties to jailed activists, a person with knowledge of the apprehensions said Friday.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
0

#12497 User is offline   Winstonm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,284
  • Joined: 2005-January-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tulsa, Oklahoma
  • Interests:Art, music

Posted 2019-April-05, 12:10

A reality check about the "great economy" of Individual-1.

Quote

“Forty percent of American workers earn less than $15 an hour, and about 5% of full-time American workers earn the minimum wage or less, which is certainly not a living wage,” Dimon wrote. “In addition, 40% of Americans don’t have $400 to deal with unexpected expenses, such as medical bills or car repairs.“

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
0

#12498 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-05, 13:49

 Winstonm, on 2019-April-05, 08:22, said:

We will now get to see with whom lies the interests of Individual-1, the U.S. or others.


Clearly a rhetorical question. Dennison's interests follow the money. Wherever the Manchurian Puppet President thinks he can get the most money is where his interest lies on any particular topic.

President Trump has a massive conflict of interest on Saudi Arabia
0

#12499 User is offline   y66 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,496
  • Joined: 2006-February-24

Posted 2019-April-05, 15:44

From Elizabeth Warren’s ambitious plan to fight the opioid epidemic, explained by German Lopez at Vox:

Quote

Elizabeth Warren is widely known for her public battles with big banks and Wall Street. She’s gotten attention for her wealth tax proposal. She’s praised, even by some conservatives, for her book The Two-Income Trap.

One part of the 2020 presidential hopeful’s record doesn’t get as much attention: her efforts to fight America’s opioid crisis.

As a US senator for Massachusetts, Warren has built a formidable record on the opioid crisis, which now kills more Americans than gun violence or car crashes. She’s called for more research into alternative painkillers, including medical marijuana. She’s tried to hold President Donald Trump’s administration accountable for its weak response, even pushing a government watchdog agency to investigate the administration.

And Warren, along with Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), in 2018 introduced what experts regularly cite as the best bill in Congress on the issue: the Comprehensive Addiction Resources Emergency (CARE) Act. The bill would authorize $100 billion over 10 years to combat drug addiction, funneling money to cities, counties, and states — particularly those hardest hit by drug overdoses — and other organizations to boost spending on addiction treatment, harm reduction services, and prevention programs.

“Our communities are on the front lines of the epidemic, and they’re working hard to fight back,” Warren told me in an interview. “But they can’t do it alone. They can’t keep nibbling around the edges.”

Warren is now running for president, and her record could set her apart on one of America’s worst public health crises. In 2017, there were a record 70,000 drug overdose deaths, about two-thirds of which were linked to opioids. The number of overdose deaths was so high that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention linked it to a rare drop in US life expectancy that year. Preliminary data suggests 2018 was about the same, or perhaps a bit worse, nationwide.

There’s wide agreement, among activists and drug policy experts, that much more action is needed to reverse the opioid crisis. Congress has changed some regulations and rules to open up access to treatment, and it’s allocated some funds here and there, in the single-digit billions, to the crisis. But advocates and experts argue something far more comprehensive — tens of billions of dollars over the next few years — is needed. Republicans, however, have resisted such calls, voicing skepticism of running up government spending (outside tax cuts for the wealthy).

Yet so far, no presidential candidate but Warren has put forward a concrete plan to confront the opioid epidemic. Her Massachusetts Senate seat has likely influenced her actions: Like the rest of New England, Massachusetts has seen a disproportionate number of overdose deaths. Its rate of drug overdose deaths was 31.8 per 100,000 people in 2017, far above the national average of 21.7.

The CARE Act makes the kind of commitment that advocates and experts have called for. As I’ve traveled around North America and talked to people on the ground about the opioid epidemic, experts and activists have, without even being asked about federal legislation, pointed to the CARE Act as an example of a serious attempt to tackle the crisis.

The bill “is the only one that really grasps the nettle of how big the problem is,” Keith Humphreys, a drug policy expert at Stanford University, told me. “Whatever else people might say about it, this is the first thing that really recognizes that [the opioid crisis] is a massive public health problem, like AIDS, and is not going to be solved by a tweak here, a tweak there.”

This comparison to the HIV/AIDS epidemic is one that experts and activists — and Warren — frequently use, because it’s an example both of the death toll of government indifference and of the power of Congress to actually make change. (Relatedly, drug overdoses now kill more people in the US each year than HIV/AIDS did at its peak.)

If you lose all hope, you can always find it again -- Richard Ford in The Sportswriter
0

#12500 User is online   johnu 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 5,030
  • Joined: 2008-September-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2019-April-05, 22:14

 johnu, on 2019-April-03, 02:14, said:

Dennison and Republicans care a lot about fetuses, not so much about babies

After hundreds of crashes, this Britax jogging stroller faced recall. Then Trump appointees stepped in.

Quote

The crashes were brutal. With no warning, the front wheel on the three-wheeled BOB jogging strollers fell off, causing the carriages to careen and even flip over. Adults shattered bones. They tore ligaments. Children smashed their teeth. They gashed their faces. One child bled from his ear canal.

Quote

Ann Marie Buerkle, a Republican, was named acting chairwoman in February 2017. Trump has nominated her to take on the role permanently.

Buerkle, who has served on the commission since 2013, was the only commissioner to oppose proposed portable generator rules aimed at reducing carbon monoxide poisoning in 2016. She was again the lone vote that year against a then-record $15.45 million penalty for a company accused of making humidifiers prone to catching fire.

Buerkle declined to be interviewed by The Post.

In Buerkle’s first two years as chairwoman, the number of companies fined for misconduct declined to five in 2017-2018 from 12 in 2015-2016. Public voluntary recalls fell about 13 percent during the same period, resulting in approximately 80 fewer recalls, according to agency data. Last year, the number of public recalls fell to its lowest level in a decade, consumer advocates say.

Quote

Two months later, just two days before Thanksgiving, Britax and the agency announced an end to the recall lawsuit with a settlement, which required the company to run a public safety campaign and offer replacement parts or discounts on new strollers to some users in what was clearly not a traditional safety recall. The commission voted 3 to 2 along party lines to accept it.


Don't depend on the federal government to protect you from unsafe products, or consumer fraud. There is profit to be made and payoffs to be doled out.


U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is certainly on the job.

Fisher-Price Issues Warning After 10 Babies Die In Rock ‘N Play Sleeper

Quote

The most recent death linked to the Rock ’n Play occurred last month, CPSC spokeswoman Patty Davis told CNN. The commission has not issued a recall.

“If it turns out that it needs to be recalled, we will move forward with that,” Davis told the cable news channel.

No recall??? :rolleyes: Why not?

Quote

Fisher-Price defended the Rock ’n Play as a safe product in a statement to its customers shared Friday night.

“Generations of parents have trusted us for almost 90 years to provide safe products for their children,” the company said in a tweet. “In keeping with that trust, the Rock ’n Play Sleeper meets all applicable safety standards.”

Parent should feel very safe in using a product that meets safety standards.
0

  • 1107 Pages +
  • « First
  • 623
  • 624
  • 625
  • 626
  • 627
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

378 User(s) are reading this topic
2 members, 376 guests, 0 anonymous users

  1. Chas_P,
  2. Google,
  3. kenberg