[UdcaDenny]

I passed as N and my P overcalled 2D with 3C. As there could be a 5-3 fit in H I bid 3H
waiting with my C support. My P thought I shud raise 5C to slam but I argued why didnt
he bid 3S over my 3H. Then I would bid 4C and he could use 4D as blackwood. So who shud
take action to find slam ?

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[wank]

raising to slam would be absurd on your hand.

your partner grossly underbid at both opportunities.

[akwoo]

3♣ is a gross underbid on a 4 loser hand with no bad queens.

If it goes (2♦)-X-(3/4♦)-4♥-(P)-5♣-(P) to you, presumably you'd know what to do with 2 keycards, another king and a likely useful doubleton.

[SteveMoe]

3♣ is fine. After your 3♥, south has a clear 4♦ call. You can mention 4♠ and south rebids 5♦ confirming the void. 5♥ would now show the ♥K. 5♠ the ♠K. Now your 6♣ might encourage partner to bid 7.

[gszes]

3c is fine
3h natural
3s normal and forcing keeps nt in the picture
4c very reasonable raise 5c a bit much with 3 little diamonds
4d/4n system dependent advancer inability to try 3n makes our hand golden
advancer shows showing 2 keys
6d strongly suspect advancer has at most 2 spades we cannot verify advancer has 4+ clubs and they cannot hold both the spade Q and thejeart K needed for a grand so we settle.

[UdcaDenny]

Please more comments as my P is very stubborn and says he bid very strong and think I shud go to slam with my Kxx.
I think he shud double first and then bid C over my H. As the bidding went I also suggested he shud bid reverse 3S
over my 3H. Then after 4C from me he could ask for keycard or cuebid.

[helene_t]

3♣ is ok. The hand is a tad strong for it but there is no great alternative. I wouldn't object to double, or maybe even 3♦ if discussed. 4♣ is also an option.

5♣ is probably stronger than 4♣ (I don't think 4♣ is forcing) but nevertheless 5♣ is an underbid. It is not clear what S should bid but at least 6♣ is a better bid than 5♣.

You might consider raising to slam if you are sure opps can be trusted to be in a 9 card fit but I would pass anyway.

[P_Marlowe]

3C is sensible, you dont want to by pass 3NT, and although you have
a 7 carder, the suit is not solid.

3H, implies somekind of club support, given that, and the fact that South has
AJ in hearts, he could make a slam try with 4D.
4D is not clearly a slam try for clubs, it could also be for hearts.
North, having a max. and only working values, can show the Spade control,
bypassing 4H and than South can bid 6C.

I am not sure, I find this seq. at the table.

And for sure: I am not raising 5C to 6C as North, I have no idea, what North has
for his 5C bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Cyberyeti]

 gszes, on 2016-March-20, 10:20, said:

3c is fine
3h natural
3s normal and forcing keeps nt in the picture
4c very reasonable raise 5c a bit much with 3 little diamonds
4d/4n system dependent advancer inability to try 3n makes our hand golden
advancer shows showing 2 keys
6d strongly suspect advancer has at most 2 spades we cannot verify advancer has 4+ clubs and they cannot hold both the spade Q and thejeart K needed for a grand so we settle.

3 little diamonds is a lot better than Kxx in a 10 count, partner most likely has 1 or 0 now with no wastage.

[gszes]

 Cyberyeti, on 2016-April-06, 08:15, said:

3 little diamonds is a lot better than Kxx in a 10 count, partner most likely has 1 or 0 now with no wastage.

that is true but I can easily see 3n vs 4c when holding Kxx dia especially as a passed hand. That really means south should realize that N has very little if anything wasted in diamonds. That is what makes the south hand so golden.

[helene_t]

Note that 3♥ shows club tolerance since North is a passed hand who apparently doesn't have a 2♥ opening (nor a responsive double on 3♦).

[lycier]

I think " Who should take action is equivalent to who should be a captain.
Of course, south is a captain, after 3♥, south directly bid up to 5♣, this is a imcomplete description.
After 3♥, the following goes normally : 3♥ - 3♠ - 4♣ - 4♦* ......, note here there is a psychological problem, that's to say south is very worried about rebid-3♠ is non-forcing, south is pretty scared of your passing 3♠ !!!
Don't blame your partner, in fact it is a matter of trust, you should know it never be a question of " who should take action".
Trust is a hard thing. Good luck to both of you.