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Posted 2016-October-30, 16:57
MPs, nobody vulnerable, Lead is ♥9 (hearts break 2-2)
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Posted 2016-October-30, 17:16
Fluffy, on 2016-October-30, 16:57, said:
MPs, nobody vulnerable, Lead is ♥9 (hearts break 2-2)
Eliminate diamonds early, lead a spade to the ♠10
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Posted 2016-October-30, 21:09
Tricky.
If you eliminate ♦ first then you have to use both ♥J10 as entries to play on ♠. But that leaves you badly placed if ♠ are 4-2 as you cannot ruff your 4th ♠. Instead draw trumps in 2 and play one ♦ to dummy, and finesse in ♠. If West returns a ♦, you can now safely eliminate the suit and return to dummy with a trump for the second ♠ finesse. If you lose to an offside ♠KQ check to see if ♠ break 3-3. if not, ruff the 4th and take the ♣ finesse.
The avoidance play and the 74% finesse in ♠ are a better be than eliminating ♦ immediately.
If you eliminate ♦ first then you have to use both ♥J10 as entries to play on ♠. But that leaves you badly placed if ♠ are 4-2 as you cannot ruff your 4th ♠. Instead draw trumps in 2 and play one ♦ to dummy, and finesse in ♠. If West returns a ♦, you can now safely eliminate the suit and return to dummy with a trump for the second ♠ finesse. If you lose to an offside ♠KQ check to see if ♠ break 3-3. if not, ruff the 4th and take the ♣ finesse.
The avoidance play and the 74% finesse in ♠ are a better be than eliminating ♦ immediately.
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Posted 2016-October-30, 22:14
SteveMoe, on 2016-October-30, 21:09, said:
Tricky.
If you eliminate ♦ first then you have to use both ♥J10 as entries to play on ♠. But that leaves you badly placed if ♠ are 4-2 as you cannot ruff your 4th ♠. Instead draw trumps in 2 and play one ♦ to dummy, and finesse in ♠. If West returns a ♦, you can now safely eliminate the suit and return to dummy with a trump for the second ♠ finesse. If you lose to an offside ♠KQ check to see if ♠ break 3-3. if not, ruff the 4th and take the ♣ finesse.
The avoidance play and the 74% finesse in ♠ are a better be than eliminating ♦ immediately.
If you eliminate ♦ first then you have to use both ♥J10 as entries to play on ♠. But that leaves you badly placed if ♠ are 4-2 as you cannot ruff your 4th ♠. Instead draw trumps in 2 and play one ♦ to dummy, and finesse in ♠. If West returns a ♦, you can now safely eliminate the suit and return to dummy with a trump for the second ♠ finesse. If you lose to an offside ♠KQ check to see if ♠ break 3-3. if not, ruff the 4th and take the ♣ finesse.
The avoidance play and the 74% finesse in ♠ are a better be than eliminating ♦ immediately.
Ummm, what? Jesus!
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
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Your line can not make even if spades are 3-3. You plays spade they win and exit with ♦. you play 2nd spade they win and exit with 3rd ♠ you discard a ♣ from dummy on 4th spade but dummy has 3 of them so you still end up giving 2♣
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Posted 2016-October-31, 02:04
Far too easy problem even for the intermediates.As labelled appropriately,a simple game."E" for elimination as described by George S Coffin in his masterpiece "A TO Z".
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Posted 2016-October-31, 03:16
msjennifer, on 2016-October-31, 02:04, said:
Far too easy problem even for the intermediates.As labelled appropriately,a simple game."E" for elimination as described by George S Coffin in his masterpiece "A TO Z".
Some problems are different when presented as a problem I guess
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Posted 2016-October-31, 03:26
If the ♠ deep finesse loses 1st round, West is endplayed surely? They either have to lead a ♠ back into your A10, or a club into your Kx, or give you a ruff-and-discard.
If the finesse holds, just give up the third spade. You lose at most 1 ♠ and 2 ♣. No need to use your second entry to dummy.
[edit] I think the above fails if East has ♠KQ and plays an honour on first round....
If the finesse holds, just give up the third spade. You lose at most 1 ♠ and 2 ♣. No need to use your second entry to dummy.
[edit] I think the above fails if East has ♠KQ and plays an honour on first round....
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Posted 2016-October-31, 04:58
MrAce, on 2016-October-30, 22:14, said:
Ummm, what? Jesus!
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
Your line can not make even if spades are 3-3. You plays spade they win and exit with ♦. you play 2nd spade they win and exit with 3rd ♠ you discard a ♣ from dummy on 4th spade but dummy has 3 of them so you still end up giving 2♣
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
Your line can not make even if spades are 3-3. You plays spade they win and exit with ♦. you play 2nd spade they win and exit with 3rd ♠ you discard a ♣ from dummy on 4th spade but dummy has 3 of them so you still end up giving 2♣
One nagging thought is what happens if E shows out on the second trump. What do you do now ?
Steve will work out that he has to ruff a winning spade to lead a club up when he gets to that stage if spades are 3-3 so it's not no play, just not as good.
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Posted 2016-October-31, 06:59
Matchpoints was listed. I wonder if that matters 
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Posted 2016-October-31, 07:09
msjennifer, on 2016-October-31, 02:04, said:
Far too easy problem even for the intermediates. As labelled appropriately,a simple game."E" for elimination as described by George S Coffin in his masterpiece "A TO Z".
Fluffy, on 2016-October-31, 03:16, said:
Some problems are different when presented as a problem I guess
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Posted 2016-November-01, 03:31
After ♥9 lead I assumed west would have a honnor to protect on the rest of the suits*, if that is the case I saw no gain from eliminating diamonds as I wanted her to lead a diamond if possible, even when she has ♠KQ.
So I crossd to dummy in trumps to lead a spade to my ♠J, LHO won the ♠Kand having no heart left, she was left with only bad options: returning a spade into my tenace, a diamond underlead or a club from the ace.
She returned ♦6 after some though, this little hessitation gave me enough confidence to run it to ♦J and pitch my losing club on diamonds. +450 got every MP.
I don't have the match record so I don't know where ♣Q was. I know West as 4234. We can all see that diamond return was not great, but people make mistakes, if you let them.
*: There is certainly some degree of knowing your customer here.
So I crossd to dummy in trumps to lead a spade to my ♠J, LHO won the ♠Kand having no heart left, she was left with only bad options: returning a spade into my tenace, a diamond underlead or a club from the ace.
She returned ♦6 after some though, this little hessitation gave me enough confidence to run it to ♦J and pitch my losing club on diamonds. +450 got every MP.
I don't have the match record so I don't know where ♣Q was. I know West as 4234. We can all see that diamond return was not great, but people make mistakes, if you let them.
*: There is certainly some degree of knowing your customer here.
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Posted 2016-November-01, 09:29
After ♥9 lead I assumed west would have a honnor to protect on the rest of the suits*, if that is the case I saw no gain from eliminating diamonds as I wanted her to lead a diamond if possible, even when she has ♠KQ.
So I crossd to dummy in trumps to lead a spade to my ♠J, LHO won the ♠Kand having no heart left, she was left with only bad options: returning a spade into my tenace, a diamond underlead or a club from the ace.
She returned ♦6 after some though, this little hessitation gave me enough confidence to run it to ♦J and pitch my losing club on diamonds. +450 got every MP.
I don't have the match record so I don't know where ♣Q was. I know West as 4234. We can all see that diamond return was not great, but people make mistakes, if you let them.
*: There is certainly some degree of knowing your customer here.
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So I crossd to dummy in trumps to lead a spade to my ♠J, LHO won the ♠Kand having no heart left, she was left with only bad options: returning a spade into my tenace, a diamond underlead or a club from the ace.
She returned ♦6 after some though, this little hessitation gave me enough confidence to run it to ♦J and pitch my losing club on diamonds. +450 got every MP.
I don't have the match record so I don't know where ♣Q was. I know West as 4234. We can all see that diamond return was not great, but people make mistakes, if you let them.
*: There is certainly some degree of knowing your customer here.
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Posted 2016-November-01, 09:34
Kaitlyn S has given the correct answer just in one sentence.I have drawn attention of the juniors to the wonderful" From A to Z" so that they will take trouble to go through it and understand the principle behind it.
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msjennifer, on 2016-November-01, 09:34, said:
Kaitlyn S has given the correct answer just in one sentence.
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Posted 2016-November-05, 15:33
MrAce, on 2016-October-30, 22:14, said:
Ummm, what? Jesus!
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
Your line can not make even if spades are 3-3. You plays spade they win and exit with ♦. you play 2nd spade they win and exit with 3rd ♠ you discard a ♣ from dummy on 4th spade but dummy has 3 of them so you still end up giving 2♣
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
Your line can not make even if spades are 3-3. You plays spade they win and exit with ♦. you play 2nd spade they win and exit with 3rd ♠ you discard a ♣ from dummy on 4th spade but dummy has 3 of them so you still end up giving 2♣
Yep - must have been past my bedtime!
My proposed line is garbage...
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Posted 2016-November-06, 10:39
MrAce, on 2016-October-30, 22:14, said:
Ummm, what? Jesus!
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
♥A
♦AK and ruff with ♥K
♥J to dummy and hearts are clean,
♠ to T, W wins and end played already, you still have 2 trumps in dummy so I do not understand what you are talking about.
100 % guaranteed,
What I dislike about this type of problem is being told trumps are 2-2.
You can tell that East will follow to the first trick, but telling something you will only discover at trick 5 is unrealistic.
At the table you need to judge how well this plan would work if hearts are 3-1 or 1-3 before embarking on it.
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