Playing Bergen raises
Are they on after interference?
1. After Overcall
2. After Double
We have played on after a double however we have no agreement over an overcall.
Thank you
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Bergen raises 2/1 ACBL
#2
Posted 2017-June-06, 06:44
It depends on agreement, but I wouldn't. I'd prefer to play fit jumps.
Gordon Rainsford
London UK
London UK
#3
Posted 2017-June-06, 07:03
I don't mind playing bergen raises over a double. After an overcall, it is playable over a 1 level overcall, but unplayable over 2 level interference imo. Ultimately, it is down to partnership agreement.
Wayne Somerville
#4
Posted 2017-June-06, 13:20
Bergen himself invented BROMAD to deal with 1M-(X). Workable, but I prefer Cappelletti (no, not the Cappelletti that's used over opponents' 1NT opening, a different one), probably because I learned it first and because I like transfers. I think Bergen recommends Bergen raises be off after an overcall. In any case, if you don't have an agreement, you need to make one.
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As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#5
Posted 2017-June-07, 03:56
Need partnership agreement for all levels and types of interference. My preference after a double :
system on in entirety.
My preference after natural simple or single jump overcall is :
X and up to suit below partner's = transfer to next step (eg 1♥ (1♠) X = transfer to NT, while 1NT = transfer to clubs)
.. with a transfer to partner's suit being "full strength", ie transfer to 2M is 3 card 7-10 hcp, and ..
immediate support = weaker
new suit above next level of partner's = natural, forcing unless passed
2NT = 3 card support 11+ hcp
opponent's suit = 4+ card support 9+ hcp
raise to 3+level = 4+card support, up to 8hcp
jump (or double jump) new suit = fit jump = 5 card suit with a raise hand good enough for that level.
So applying this to your Bergen bids, 1♥ (1♠) 3♣ = fit jump, but 1♠ (2♥) 3♣ is forcing natural suit.
Your Bergen hands are likely to be 1♥ (1♠) 2♠ (or 3♥ if you bid them that weak).
system on in entirety.
My preference after natural simple or single jump overcall is :
X and up to suit below partner's = transfer to next step (eg 1♥ (1♠) X = transfer to NT, while 1NT = transfer to clubs)
.. with a transfer to partner's suit being "full strength", ie transfer to 2M is 3 card 7-10 hcp, and ..
immediate support = weaker
new suit above next level of partner's = natural, forcing unless passed
2NT = 3 card support 11+ hcp
opponent's suit = 4+ card support 9+ hcp
raise to 3+level = 4+card support, up to 8hcp
jump (or double jump) new suit = fit jump = 5 card suit with a raise hand good enough for that level.
So applying this to your Bergen bids, 1♥ (1♠) 3♣ = fit jump, but 1♠ (2♥) 3♣ is forcing natural suit.
Your Bergen hands are likely to be 1♥ (1♠) 2♠ (or 3♥ if you bid them that weak).
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