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CONVENIENT MINOR eliminating convenient minor

#1 User is offline   j1i9m4 

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Posted 2018-July-22, 15:18

Open 1NT with 44 majors & 32 minors or 43 majors and 33 minors which means you do NOT have a 5+ card major or a 4+ card minor. 1NT 13+HCP = 12+ guarded which is any A, at least Kx, Qxx, + Jxxx=1 12+1=13 STOPPER in at LEAST 3 suits [with 44 majors may open without the Jxxx]

1NT=13-19 - 2C=6+ asking for a 4 card major with the following bids:
3HS=19

2H=16-18 with a FIT - PASS=6 3C[4hearts]=7 3H=8 4H=9+
2S=16-18 with a FIT - PASS=6 3D[4spades]=7 3S=8 4S=9+
2H=16-18 NO FIT - 2S=6 2NT=7 3D[4spades]=8 3NT=9+
2S=16-18 NO FIT - 2NT=6-7 3C[4hearts]=8 3NT=9+

2D=13-15 2HS=6-9 2NT=10 3C[4hearts]=11 3D[4spades]=11 3HS=12+
* 2NT=10 opener rebids
3C[4hearts] 3D[4spades

1NT=13-19 - 2D to 2H 5 heart transfer 2H to 2S 5 spade transfer
2D-2H PASS=0-8 3C[4hearts]=9-10 3H=11 4H=12+
2H-2S PASS=0-8 3D[4spades]=9-10 3S=11 4S=12+

1NT=13-19 NO 4 or 5 card major - PASS=0-8 2S=9-10 2NT=11 3NT=12+

Use 3C=4hearts & 3D=4spades is so that Opener can rebid the Heart or Spade and the higher point hand is up. 3 card minor is eliminated and this 1NT requirement opening averages 2 in 80 hands which means your suit open is an average 98% of the time. This also means that you ALWAYS know Opener has a 4 card major and you ALWAYS have an 8 or 9 card major FIT when transferring. Only 6+ for Stayman same as 6+ for 1 suit response I call this SIMPLY SIMPLIFiED STANDARD AMERICAN. I hope that you give it a try. Jim
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Posted 2018-July-22, 20:49

May your opponents never overcall.

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Posted 2018-July-22, 22:37

What about responder holding no major? Whst about NT rebids after 1m opening? What about opps overcalling?

Price is too high IMO to be guaranteed the 4th card in a minor.

Operators pls move this to non-natural!
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Posted 2018-July-24, 12:41

View Postdokoko, on 2018-July-22, 22:37, said:

What about responder holding no major? Whst about NT rebids after 1m opening? What about opps overcalling?

Price is too high IMO to be guaranteed the 4th card in a minor.

Operators pls move this to non-natural!

Hi, You open 1NT ONLY if you do not have a 5 card major or a 4 card minor bids are all natural after the 5 card major or 4 card minor opening thank you for your comments
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Posted 2018-July-25, 03:25

View Postj1i9m4, on 2018-July-22, 15:18, said:

Open 1NT with 44 majors & 32 minors or 43 majors and 33 minors which means you do NOT have a 5+ card major or a 4+ card minor. 1NT 13+HCP = 12+ guarded which is any A, at least Kx, Qxx, + Jxxx=1 12+1=13 STOPPER in at LEAST 3 suits
1NT 13-19 - 2C6+ Stayman asking for a 4 card major. Opener rebids 3HS=19 major or 3NT game is bid. 1NT 13-19 -2C6+ Opener rebids 2HS=16-18 with a Heart Fit Responder Pass=6 3C[=4hearts]=7 3H=8 4H=9+. Spade Fit Pass=6 3D[=4spades]=7 3S=8 4S=9+
1NT 13-19 - 2C6+ Opener 2H 16-18 No Fit Responder 2S=6 2NT=7 3D[4spades]=8 3NT=9+. Opener 2S No Fit Responder 2NT=6-7 3C[4hearts]=8 3NT=9+. 1NT 13-19 - 2C6+ Opener 2D=13-15 Responder 2HS=6-9 2NT=10 3CD=11 3HS=12+
1NT 13-19 Transfer 2D to 2H Responder Pass=0-8 3C[4hearts]=9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10] 3H=11 4H=12+ 2H to 2S Responder Pass=0-8 3D[4spades]=9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10] 3S=11 4S=12+ 1NT 13-19 Responder Pas=0-8 2S=9-10 2NT=11 3NT=12+

So in tree form,

1NT = 13*-19, either "44 majors & 32 minors or 43 majors and 33 minors which means you do NOT have a 5+ card major or a 4+ card minor"
...Pass = "0-8"
...2C = "6+ Stayman asking for a 4 card major"
......2D = "13-15"
.........2HS = "6-9"
.........2NT = "10"
.........3CD = "11"
.........3HS = "12+"
......2H = "16-18"
........."No Fit":
.........2S = "6"
.........2NT = "7"
.........3D"[4spades]" = "8"
.........3NT = "9+"
........."with a Heart Fit":
.........Pass = "6"
.........3C"[=4hearts]" = "7"
.........3H = "8"
.........4H = "9+"
......2S = "16-18"
........."No Fit":
.........2NT = "6-7"
.........3C"[4hearts]" = "8"
.........3NT = "9+"
........."Spade Fit":
.........Pass = "6"
.........3D"[=4spades]" = "7"
.........3S = "8"
.........4S = "9+"
......3HS = "19"
........."major or 3NT game is bid"
...2D = "Transfer" "to 2H"
......2H
.........Pass = "0-8"
.........3C"[4hearts]" = "9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10]"
.........3H = "11"
.........4H = "12+"
...2H = Transfer "to 2S"
......2S
.........Pass = "0-8"
.........3D"[4spades]" = "9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10]"
.........3S = "11"
.........4S = "12+"
...2S = "9-10"
...2NT = "11"
...3NT = "12+"

* "13+HCP = 12+ guarded which is any A, at least Kx, Qxx, + Jxxx=1 12+1=13 STOPPER in at LEAST 3 suits"

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Posted 2018-July-25, 04:58

All this just to avoid convenient minor? Why not just play short club, or a more natural system with 4-card majors?
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Posted 2018-July-25, 14:18

My first thoughts:

13 HCP for minimum bid??? - There are other posters who think you need 13 HCP. I won't insult them with my opinion of that, but needless to say, I disagree 100%

13-19 1NT??? - Unplayable. You have to invite if partner is max, but are too high if a min.

13-19 minor suit bid with some balanced/semi-balanced hands - Unplayable
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Posted 2018-July-25, 21:04

View Postnullve, on 2018-July-25, 03:25, said:

So in tree form,

1NT = 13*-19, either "44 majors & 32 minors or 43 majors and 33 minors which means you do NOT have a 5+ card major or a 4+ card minor"
...Pass = "0-8"
...2C = "6+ Stayman asking for a 4 card major"
......2D = "13-15"
.........2HS = "6-9"
.........2NT = "10"
.........3CD = "11"
.........3HS = "12+"
......2H = "16-18"
........."No Fit":
.........2S = "6"
.........2NT = "7"
.........3D"[4spades]" = "8"
.........3NT = "9+"
........."with a Heart Fit":
.........Pass = "6"
.........3C"[=4hearts]" = "7"
.........3H = "8"
.........4H = "9+"
......2S = "16-18"
........."No Fit":
.........2NT = "6-7"
.........3C"[4hearts]" = "8"
.........3NT = "9+"
........."Spade Fit":
.........Pass = "6"
.........3D"[=4spades]" = "7"
.........3S = "8"
.........4S = "9+"
......3HS = "19"
........."major or 3NT game is bid"
...2D = "Transfer" "to 2H"
......2H
.........Pass = "0-8"
.........3C"[4hearts]" = "9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10]"
.........3H = "11"
.........4H = "12+"
...2H = Transfer "to 2S"
......2S
.........Pass = "0-8"
.........3D"[4spades]" = "9-10 [or use 2NT=9-10]"
.........3S = "11"
.........4S = "12+"
...2S = "9-10"
...2NT = "11"
...3NT = "12+"

* "13+HCP = 12+ guarded which is any A, at least Kx, Qxx, + Jxxx=1 12+1=13 STOPPER in at LEAST 3 suits"

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