Improvements Needed on BBO Card Display
#1
Posted 2020-September-22, 10:52
2. Please, please make it a top priority to give members the WONDERFUL option of changing the card size to “Narrow,” as it was in the older BBO version. The cards on the new site are too fat and too big and chunky, and they take up way too much space on the table. It makes it very hard to glance at the cards when they don’t look like cards. PLEASE make that option available on your new site as soon as possible.
#2
Posted 2020-September-22, 13:58
boatchik, on 2020-September-22, 10:52, said:
I think that you need to re-read your complaint.
The standard procedure is for trumps to be placed on dummy's right.
If you are sitting south and dummy is west - on your left. Then dummy's left is at the top of the screen and dummy's right is at the bottom of the screen.
#3
Posted 2020-September-22, 15:00
If you are playing the hand, trumps will be on your left in both hands. If you are defending, trumps will be on top - either dummy. That means that if RHO is dummy, trumps are on declarer's left as normal, but if LHO is dummy, trumps are on "declarer's right".
As I said in the last thread, it was so "normal" to me that I didn't realize it was wrong until someone pointed it out.
#4
Posted 2020-September-22, 15:13
If there are supposed to be no memory aids, then it is not clear why trumps should be evidenced in any way.
It is even less clear why dummy should be free to order the remaining suits (or all suits at NT) as he (or declarer) so wishes.
In a graphic interface it makes a lot of sense to use a hand diagram (with suits stacked vertically) and I hope nobody wants to change the order then.
If people want to evidence trumps in some other way (and show the bidding during play, as BBO does) so be it.
#5
Posted 2020-September-22, 15:22
jandrew, on 2020-September-22, 13:58, said:
The standard procedure is for trumps to be placed on dummy's right.
If you are sitting south and dummy is west - on your left. Then dummy's left is at the top of the screen and dummy's right is at the bottom of the screen.
The display of dummy is actually codified in the laws of bridge.
Law 41(D)
After the opening lead is faced, dummy spreads
his hand in front of him on the table, face up,
sorted into suits, the cards in order of rank with
lowest ranking cards towards declarer, and in
separate columns pointing lengthwise towards
declarer. Trumps are placed to dummy’s right.
Declarer plays both his hand and that of dummy
This law says that dummy's suits should be arranged in columns by suit. BBO does not do this in the latest versions of software although the obsolete Windows version managed to accomplish this. If BBO doesn't think it is necessary for dummy's suits to be arrange by columns, I don't see any reason why trumps should be in any particular order.
#6
Posted 2020-September-23, 14:03
#7
Posted 2020-September-25, 11:52
by the clubs. Not spades hearts clubs then diamonds.
#8
Posted 2020-September-25, 13:24
jillboner, on 2020-September-25, 11:52, said:
by the clubs. Not spades hearts clubs then diamonds.
I imagine that spades hearts clubs diamonds is chosen to obtain contrast between suits in 'picture of cards' view.
It doesn't happen in 'hand diagram'.
BBO has repeatedly ignored requests to use four colours, but in my experience with physical cards that doesn't work well either.
#9
Posted 2020-September-25, 16:27
jandrew, on 2020-September-22, 13:58, said:
The standard procedure is for trumps to be placed on dummy's right.
If you are sitting south and dummy is west - on your left. Then dummy's left is at the top of the screen and dummy's right is at the bottom of the screen.
I was referring to south's view, not dummy's.