[Bank_robb]

How to warning rude player?

[mycroft]

depending on how bad the comment is:
- warn them in response
- leave the table
- if host, boot them
- report to abuse@bridgebase.com

Unfortunately, rudeness is endemic in bridge, and rudeness is endemic in online interactions. That doesn't mean you have to put up with it, at least the second time.

[AL78]

It is ironic that rudeness is endemic in bridge, a game dominated by retired people. In my youth, it was common to hear of elderly people complaining about the bad manners of young people, and how young people have no respect. I don't think there is any generational difference in behaviour at all, or if there is, it is tiny.

[pilowsky]

AL78, on 2021-July-15, 15:34, said:

It is ironic that rudeness is endemic in bridge, a game dominated by retired people. In my youth, it was common to hear of elderly people complaining about the bad manners of young people, and how young people have no respect. I don't think there is any generational difference in behaviour at all, or if there is, it is tiny.

Aren't the young people that your 'elderly people' were complaining about now the retired people that OP is talking about?
Perhaps the post-war boomer generation does - for some unknown reason - have a 'rudeness' problem?
The internet has 'anonymised' rudeness so that it is easier to act out.
If sites such as BBO mandated real names, it might inhibit aggressive rudeness.

[AL78]

pilowsky, on 2021-July-15, 19:03, said:

Aren't the young people that your 'elderly people' were complaining about now the retired people that OP is talking about?

No, The retired people now would be in their late 40's to 60's when I was young (late teens/early 20's) so middle aged/mature, not young. As I said I don't think demograph has anything to do with it. An arsehole is an arsehole no matter how old they are.

You have summed it up by mentioning anonymity. Some people have only a thin veneer of civility in public beneath which is there true nasty side, and the absence of consequences allows this nasty side to come to the surface. You are probably right that if people online could be identified it would reduce rudeness, but then you get into privacy and safety issues.

[nige1]

Bank_robb, on 2021-July-15, 05:41, said:

How to warning rude player?

Warnings rarely work but you can try:

• In a tournament with a TD, report them to the TD. Recommend the TD to his NBO, in the vanishingly unlikely event that any meaningful sanction is imposed.
• Report them to abuse@bridgebase.com
• Mark their profile as "Ignore" with an appropriate factual (non-libellous) "Note" of the date and offence.

[Chas_P]

Bridge is essentially a social game, but unfortunately it attracts a substantial number of antisocial people.
Alan Truscott

[blackshoe]

Chas_P, on 2021-July-16, 10:59, said:

Bridge is essentially a social game, but unfortunately it attracts a substantial number of antisocial people.
Alan Truscott

I like this. I'm gonna steal it. :-)

[pilowsky]

blackshoe, on 2021-July-16, 16:47, said:

I like this. I'm gonna steal it. :-)

It's a misunderstanding of the word 'social'.
Bridge is only 'social' in the sense that to play it two people need to understand each other better than two other people.
The use of the word 'social' to mean 'friendly' doesn't apply in a competitive sport.
After the game - at the pub - there might be some friendliness.


Ants, dogs (but not cats) and sheep are also social. Dogs can be friendly, but it's pretty transactional.

[Chas_P]

blackshoe, on 2021-July-16, 16:47, said:

I like this. I'm gonna steal it. :-)

You are welcome to it, my friend. I only regret not being the originator. But kudos to Truscott for his observation.

[Chas_P]

pilowsky, on 2021-July-16, 18:26, said:

The use of the word 'social' to mean 'friendly' doesn't apply in a competitive sport.

And then there's Sheinwold:


Since the average person's small supply of politeness must last him all his
life, he can't afford to waste it on bridge partners.
Alfred Sheinwold

[AL78]

Chas_P, on 2021-July-17, 18:22, said:

And then there's Sheinwold:


Since the average person's small supply of politeness must last him all his
life, he can't afford to waste it on bridge partners.
Alfred Sheinwold

Now that is a good one.

[blackshoe]

It is indeed.

[pescetom]

And since the average person's small supply of attention must last him all day, he can't afford to waste it on bridge partners signals or lead directions.

[Chas_P]

pescetom, on 2021-July-18, 09:54, said:

And since the average person's small supply of attention must last him all day, he can't afford to waste it on bridge partners signals or lead directions.

Well yeah, there's that too.

[barmar]

pilowsky, on 2021-July-16, 18:26, said:

It's a misunderstanding of the word 'social'.

Puns stop being funny if you analyze them. Try to understand the aphorism as it was intended.

[pilowsky]

barmar, on 2021-July-19, 22:05, said:

Puns stop being funny if you analyze them. Try to understand the aphorism as it was intended.

You seem to misunderstand my comment.
People often describe Bridge as a social game - which it is in the sense that I described above.
Newcomers to the game are sometimes misled into thinking that by 'social', people mean 'friendly'.
Bridge players can be friendly or unfriendly, but that has nothing to do with the 'social nature of the game.
The use of the term 'social' wrt Bridge is not the word's usual meaning.

[mycroft]

Puns stop being funny if you analyze them. Try to understand the aphorism as it was intended.