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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2021-July-23, 15:17


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Posted 2021-July-23, 15:32

I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2..
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Posted 2021-July-23, 15:46

too much value concentration and the spade stop to consider much else 2d. Axx x Qxxxxx KJx and I am willing to go quietly to my probable doom. Change me to AQx x xxxxxx KJx and double looks a lot better (I will have my apology card ready for display if it does not work). xxx x AKQJxx xxx looks an awful like a 3d bid to me.
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Posted 2021-July-23, 15:54

2D. Sometimes you go for 300 or 500 against air - but that is no reason to stop bidding when it is right to do so. Reverse the vulnerability and you have a genuine problem.
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Posted 2021-July-23, 16:04

Depends on partnership style, 2 or 3. Favourable probably 2.
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Posted 2021-July-23, 21:56

View Postsmerriman, on 2021-July-23, 15:32, said:

I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2..


agree. you should not X with weaker unbalanced hands even with stiff/void in opps. suit when another sensible bid is available. 2 is sensible though some will bid 3 here at white/red. thats partnership style/agreement.
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Posted 2021-July-23, 22:15

2D it is, and it continues..
(auction fixed)


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Posted 2021-July-23, 23:09

Personally I would bid the takeout as the priority is to find an 8 card fit. 1NT for me as I play The Overcall Structure
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Posted 2021-July-24, 01:25

View Postjillybean, on 2021-July-23, 22:15, said:

2D it is, and it continues..
(auction fixed)




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Posted 2021-July-24, 01:42

1st question is easy. Green, AK 6th and some side goodies. A minimal but normal overcall. If partner next jumps to 3NT, I won’t be ashamed tabling dummy.

Now, over the reopening X, 5C would be exaggerate I think, even if partner’s hand is not too well defined at that stage (I guess with 4-cd S suit, they would bid 3S? what strength can we expect?).

If we could legitimately hesitate the round before to fit partner over 3H, now I think it it too late to have 2nd thoughts.

We could lose 3 tricks depending on partner’s major holdings and C suit (Axx Kxx xx AQJxxx or AKx xxx xx AKxxxx). Comes back again to what can we expect from partner.

Easy at MPs and safe choice at IMPs, we’re not even red to consider being lucky or bold.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 03:58

Agreed, 2 the first time and 4 the second time.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 06:13

4 bid now. partner will know you are bare minimum for 2 overcall as you passed 3. west X can never be for penalty here even though there may be a small percentage of hands where north's 3 can go down bad (-500/-800). most norths would not bid 3 red/white with garbage after partner passes. I expect north to have at least 8 tricks in own hand.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 07:31

JillyBean
+++++++++++++++++

Depends on partnership style and form of scoring. IMO..
1. Pass if 2-level overcalls are sound.
2. 2 otherwise, at MPs;

JillyBean '2D it is, and it continues. Auction fixed
++++++++++++++++++
Now, I rank...
1. 4. Reluctant support.
2. 3. Economical, reasonable suit.
3. 3. Good hand in context.
4. 3. Exaggeration.
5. Pass. Might work.

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Posted 2021-July-24, 08:23

West has the strongest hand at the table if north can be trusted. Pass is reasonable but the club fit argues for my bid of 4C.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 08:33

View Postnige1, on 2021-July-24, 07:31, said:

Now, I rank...
1. 4. Reluctant support.
2. 3. Economical, reasonable suit.
3. 3. Good hand in context.
3. 3. Exaggeration.
4. Pass. Might work.[/hv]


3 and 3 are perhaps excessively economical (though a good way of silencing zealous partner).
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Posted 2021-July-24, 10:28

To be honest, I'd have bid on the previous round.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 12:21

Hi,

it is either 2D or 3D.
Given that we are white vs. red, 3D could be a lot less than we actually got and given partner did not have a chance to speak,
I think I am going with 2D.
In the followup auction you gave, I am passing, but I would have raised to 4C the round before.

It helps a bit, if I know the South player, there are players, I would never go with Pass, and others,
where I expect 800+.

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Posted 2021-July-24, 14:00

View Postpescetom, on 2021-July-24, 08:33, said:

3 and 3 are perhaps excessively economical (though a good way of silencing zealous partner).

Argh, PesceTom! Thank you. :(
Good problem, JillyBean.
Now, I rank some of the sufficient bids as :)

1. 4. Reluctant support
2. Pass. Timid
3. 3. OK, in context.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 14:07

View Postsmerriman, on 2021-July-23, 15:32, said:

I checked my temperature and it appears I'm still alive, so 2..


This was more of a pulse check rather than a temperature check. Players who would pass don't have a pulse.
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Posted 2021-July-24, 14:24



South has an easy raise of partners opening 1. East thought X was penalty, was West too aggressive?
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