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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2024-December-21, 13:52

Hi all

I am starting to play a bit of bridge again after years.

I am struggling to visualize my partner's and declarers hands. That is a nice way to say my defense is poor. Given bridge is a timed event any pointers on improving under time pressure?

Thanks in advance..
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Posted 2024-December-21, 13:59

A (re)read of "How to read your opponent's cards" by Mike Lawrence?
The assumptions about bidding and carding and both outdated and undocumented, but it opens your eyes nevertheless.

Of course this goes the opposite road of handling time pressure. I think the most important thing there is being aware when a break in tempo would give partner problems, and in that case knowing to avoid it whatever - decide an initial default choice and just follow it if time runs out before you really decide. Do not panic about time or some unexpected thought or event and override the default.
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Posted 2024-December-21, 14:35

See whether you can find a copy of Kelsey’s two books on defence. Killing Defence and, irrc, More Killing Defence

On a higher level, and with the problems split between declarer play and defence are his three ‘team match’ quiz books, but I’d not do those until you’ve absorbed the defence books.


As is often the case, the bidding given is archaic and was, even in its day, based upon methods common in the UK, so would be strange to many non-UK readers, but, as the bard wrote, the play’s the thing.

I expect you can find them online, though I often get sticker shock these days….if people were actually getting the listed price, my own collection must be worth a (very) small fortune, lol.

I think that, in terms of books on play, Kelsey is in a class of his own.
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Posted 2024-December-21, 15:55

View Postmikeh, on 2024-December-21, 14:35, said:

See whether you can find a copy of Kelsey’s two books on defence. Killing Defence and, irrc, More Killing Defence
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I expect you can find them online, though I often get sticker shock these days….if people were actually getting the listed price, my own collection must be worth a (very) small fortune, lol.

I think that, in terms of books on play, Kelsey is in a class of his own.


I may have been lucky, but recently bought Killing Defence (fresh from print, not even second hand) from amazon for less than $20.
It's a great book, although hard to digest and not my first suggestion for the visualisation problem OP mentioned.
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Posted 2024-December-21, 18:11

Thank you starting reading both Lawrence and Kelsey tonight.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:30

Book are great but (a) even with perfect retention, I'm not sure how well that translates to making quicker decisions at the table; and (b) the older I get, the less effective books are as a learning tool for me. I still read a lot and YMMV of course but I just don't have the same ability to concentrate and remember what I've read as I used to.

Defense is really hard to practice because it depends so much on having good agreements and being on the same wavelength as your partner. We have Cuebids to practice bidding and Bridge Master and other things to practice declarer play. It would be nice to have something similar for practicing defense but, again, so much depends on agreements, etc., and, so far, robots haven't been much good on defense.

I used to have the Vu-Bridge defense lessons and I thought they were helpful. I see that their current subscription model is $69.95/year for everything, so you can't just pick up the defense series a la carte. https://www.vubridge.com/UShome.php Not suggesting that you spend that much, but just mentioning it in case it's of interest.

Good luck! I'm thinking of venturing back to the club next year, after not playing for several years. If I do, I'll be in the same boat.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:09

I'm reading A Switch In Time again. When I played Obvious Shift a few years ago it was successful, I'm excited to be trying it again with a partner who is interested.
If nothing else, it makes me stop, focus and think.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:20

View Postjdiana, on 2024-December-22, 12:30, said:

Book are great but (a) even with perfect retention, I'm not sure how well that translates to making quicker decisions at the table; and (b) the older I get, the less effective books are as a learning tool for me. I still read a lot and YMMV of course but I just don't have the same ability to concentrate and remember what I've read as I used to.

Defense is really hard to practice because it depends so much on having good agreements and being on the same wavelength as your partner. We have Cuebids to practice bidding and Bridge Master and other things to practice declarer play. It would be nice to have something similar for practicing defense but, again, so much depends on agreements, etc., and, so far, robots haven't been much good on defense.

I used to have the Vu-Bridge defense lessons and I thought they were helpful. I see that their current subscription model is $69.95/year for everything, so you can't just pick up the defense series a la carte. https://www.vubridge.com/UShome.php Not suggesting that you spend that much, but just mentioning it in case it's of interest.

Good luck! I'm thinking of venturing back to the club next year, after not playing for several years. If I do, I'll be in the same boat.
Thank you and good luck venturing back, win!
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Posted Yesterday, 15:21

View Postjillybean, on 2024-December-22, 15:09, said:

I'm reading A Switch In Time again. When I played Obvious Shift a few years ago it was successful, I'm excited to be trying it again with a partner who is interested.
If nothing else, it makes me stop, focus and think.

A truly great book, I got here someplace. Obvious Shift really helps my defense as long as I visualize the hands, which is my big issue now....great book.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:31

In a more general sense, practice thinking of hand patterns. These patterns exist not only in the hand you are dealt, but also in the patterns of the suits around the table. Once you have identified the pattern of just one suit, it's often possible to figure out all the other patterns. Once you have figured that out, you can begin strategizing to win more tricks.

The overall concept above sounds complicated and difficult, but it starts with the hand patterns. The more you practice figuring out the patterns, the easier it becomes.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:35

View PostHardVector, on 2024-December-22, 15:31, said:

In a more general sense, practice thinking of hand patterns. These patterns exist not only in the hand you are dealt, but also in the patterns of the suits around the table. Once you have identified the pattern of just one suit, it's often possible to figure out all the other patterns. Once you have figured that out, you can begin strategizing to win more tricks.

The overall concept above sounds complicated and difficult, but it starts with the hand patterns. The more you practice figuring out the patterns, the easier it becomes.
excellent, will definitely do this, thank you
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