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Posted Today, 07:56
OMARHEUM has sent some more hands. For this one he wrote "East opens 1C where I think most would open 1H."
I don't know if "most" WOULD open 1H, but I think they SHOULD, because the hand is not good enough for a reverse, so in many situations an EW heart fit will be missed when East opens 1C, although that was not the case here.
The GIBBO robots always open their longer suit whether it's right or wrong on any particular hand, because they apparently never learned about prepared bidding.
The GIB definitions are as annoying as usual. For example, in the definition of 1C, GIB feels that it's SUPER-important to inform us that 1C is a "Minor suit opening". I guess GIB figures no one would EVER have figured that out by themselves. Next, GIB tells us that South's ONE spade OVERCALL is a..."one-level overcall". Oh yeah, really, REALLY important to mention that, GIB.
Here's a special request, GIB: Please put a sock in it.
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I don't know if "most" WOULD open 1H, but I think they SHOULD, because the hand is not good enough for a reverse, so in many situations an EW heart fit will be missed when East opens 1C, although that was not the case here.
The GIBBO robots always open their longer suit whether it's right or wrong on any particular hand, because they apparently never learned about prepared bidding.
The GIB definitions are as annoying as usual. For example, in the definition of 1C, GIB feels that it's SUPER-important to inform us that 1C is a "Minor suit opening". I guess GIB figures no one would EVER have figured that out by themselves. Next, GIB tells us that South's ONE spade OVERCALL is a..."one-level overcall". Oh yeah, really, REALLY important to mention that, GIB.
Here's a special request, GIB: Please put a sock in it.
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Posted Today, 08:28
Another from OMAR: He writes "North promises four spades with his 2H bid. I see only three."
So do I, OMAR. As is (sigh) so often the case, the GIBBO robot does not adhere to his own GIB definition. Beyond that, however, I'm wondering: Since when did a bid of two hearts in this situation show spades (!) in the GIBBO system? Does it actually show spades?
And again the GIB definitions seem designed to ANNOY. We are told that 1D is a "minor suit opening". We are told that 1H is "one over one".
And not only are the definitions annoying, but they are also inaccurate and filled with the type of blissful ignorance so frequently manifested by the twin terrors of GIB and GIBBO. To wit: 2H is defined as "4+ spades; 8+ HCP; 8- total points". We've already seen that North does NOT have "4+ spades", but we are also reminded that GIB has no comprehension whatsoever of even the basic concept of "total" points. The definition sloppily claims that 2H shows "8+ HCP", which literally means 8-37, and that it shows "8- total points", which literally means zero to 8. In addition to the lazy vagueness of both these statements, it's quite obvious that GIB thinks North cam have MORE HCP than "total" points, perhaps even many more.
Wake up and smell the roses, GIB! Or at least the tulips! As I have mentioned multiple times, HCP can be less than or equal to "total" points, but they CANNOT be greater. "Total" points are ascertained by BEGINNING with HCP and then, if applicable, ADDING more points for distribution. That's "adding", GIB, - NOT subtracting! Anyone who sees nonsense such as this will IMMEDIATELY lose any and all faith in your usually pathetic GIB definitions...if they were naive enough to ever have faith in them in the first place.
But maybe I'm being too harsh, GIB. After all, you DID tell us that oh-so-important fact that 1D is a "minor suit opening". At least you know THAT. Now if you could learn a LITTLE bit about bridge, it would be a start!
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So do I, OMAR. As is (sigh) so often the case, the GIBBO robot does not adhere to his own GIB definition. Beyond that, however, I'm wondering: Since when did a bid of two hearts in this situation show spades (!) in the GIBBO system? Does it actually show spades?
And again the GIB definitions seem designed to ANNOY. We are told that 1D is a "minor suit opening". We are told that 1H is "one over one".
And not only are the definitions annoying, but they are also inaccurate and filled with the type of blissful ignorance so frequently manifested by the twin terrors of GIB and GIBBO. To wit: 2H is defined as "4+ spades; 8+ HCP; 8- total points". We've already seen that North does NOT have "4+ spades", but we are also reminded that GIB has no comprehension whatsoever of even the basic concept of "total" points. The definition sloppily claims that 2H shows "8+ HCP", which literally means 8-37, and that it shows "8- total points", which literally means zero to 8. In addition to the lazy vagueness of both these statements, it's quite obvious that GIB thinks North cam have MORE HCP than "total" points, perhaps even many more.
Wake up and smell the roses, GIB! Or at least the tulips! As I have mentioned multiple times, HCP can be less than or equal to "total" points, but they CANNOT be greater. "Total" points are ascertained by BEGINNING with HCP and then, if applicable, ADDING more points for distribution. That's "adding", GIB, - NOT subtracting! Anyone who sees nonsense such as this will IMMEDIATELY lose any and all faith in your usually pathetic GIB definitions...if they were naive enough to ever have faith in them in the first place.
But maybe I'm being too harsh, GIB. After all, you DID tell us that oh-so-important fact that 1D is a "minor suit opening". At least you know THAT. Now if you could learn a LITTLE bit about bridge, it would be a start!
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Posted Today, 08:42
And one more from OMAR. Here he writes "Takeout double with no diamond support".
Indeed. But let's be fair: The definition of South's 2S bid in response to North's transfer via 2H begins with words that GIB apparently thinks are vital - VITAL! "What are those words?" you might be asking. Those words are..."Transfer completed to spades". Enough, GIB - for the love of mercy, ENOUGH with all this useless bilge in your pathetic definitions.
But perhaps I'm being too harsh again. After all, GIB does give this truly wonderful definition for 3H: "4+ hearts; 20- total points". Well, well, well, GIB, that REALLY narrows it down. We now know with CERTAINTY that East CANNOT have 21 points. He CAN have zero...or twenty...or anything in between, but he CANNOT have 21. Wow! SO informative, SO useful. Thank you SO much for that superlative picture of his hand!
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Indeed. But let's be fair: The definition of South's 2S bid in response to North's transfer via 2H begins with words that GIB apparently thinks are vital - VITAL! "What are those words?" you might be asking. Those words are..."Transfer completed to spades". Enough, GIB - for the love of mercy, ENOUGH with all this useless bilge in your pathetic definitions.
But perhaps I'm being too harsh again. After all, GIB does give this truly wonderful definition for 3H: "4+ hearts; 20- total points". Well, well, well, GIB, that REALLY narrows it down. We now know with CERTAINTY that East CANNOT have 21 points. He CAN have zero...or twenty...or anything in between, but he CANNOT have 21. Wow! SO informative, SO useful. Thank you SO much for that superlative picture of his hand!
https://www.bridgeba...CH5%7Cmc%7C6%7C