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The tale of the 4 queens

#1 User is offline   Huibertus 

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Posted 2025-October-02, 12:34

A hand I played in one of the express tournaments this week with some random partner for the board. Just for fun.



When I saw the 3♠ bid appear I feared it was one of those very frequent times a partner was overbidding. But that actually wasn't the case at all, partner very much had what he should have.

So now the play. Let's assume they start leading ♦ King and switch to a High club. Not obvious, but quite reasonable. The ♦ Jack would then hold the trick, and another ♦ would seal the fate of the contract. Losing a ♣ a ♥ and a ♠ is inevitable for down one.

But as it went, it was ♦ King, ♦ Ace and a ♣ to the Ace and now East played a ♣ to partner's king...

So now partner STILL has two losers, but there is a very elegant play not to lose two more tricks. It involves 4 Queens...

Anyone?
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#2 User is offline   smerriman 

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Posted 2025-October-02, 13:21

I don't get it. East has denied a 4 card major, so the most West can have is Qxx-Kx-AKJxxx-xx; and they're surely not rebidding 3♦ on anything less. Now the best we can hope for is down 1 by drawing trumps. Even if you give East the ♠Q and West has an 11 count, we're still down 1. Of course, if West is totally insane and has 5 diamonds we have a chance of making can make by ruffing our diamond, but that would go down two with the most likely hand, so that's out of the question.. any game where we can trust the opponents to signal, interpret the signal, and find a diamond ruff is not one in which they rebid 3♦ with a minimum and 5 card suit.
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Posted 2025-October-02, 14:42

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-October-02, 12:34, said:

When I saw the 3♠ bid appear I feared it was one of those very frequent times a partner was overbidding. But that actually wasn't the case at all, partner very much had what he should have.


I may be eccentric or conservative, but for me he has a little more than he should have. I would have doubled in his place.
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Posted 2025-October-03, 10:53

So yes, Smerriman is right to point out West's bidding has room for improvement his actual hand had a ♥ more and a♦ less then the hand he proposes. TIt actually helps as this is the reason you can prevent down.

As for Pescetom's comment, a matter of style. I'd bid 2♠ but I agree it's border line.
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